Right now, progressives are the ones saying “Democrats have failed and I cannot vote for them” and moderates are the ones saying “I’ve never voted for Democrats before, but this year I will.” This was true even before the Gaza invasion.
When someone tells you their voting intentions, believe them. Unfortunately, Democrats have no choice but to prioritize moderates.
Progressive voter intentions are to pressure the Harris campaign to stop the flow of weapons. If she did that she’d have her progressive vote. Progressive leadership climbed in with the Harris campaign early with endorsements. But you’ll notice that AOC has had enough of being ignored and is now unloading on Harris. Progressives wont simply blindly support an AIPAC hand puppet like centrists will.
Last year, progressives said they could not support Biden because of inflation. Or because of student debt. Or because of the BNSF strike.
It’s clear Democrats cannot rely on support from progressives, and for this reason it makes sense for Democrats to try to appeal to moderates. Unlike progressives, moderates seem willing to support Democrats as they are instead of requiring them to be something else.
Democrats argue with Trump supporters all the time, I see no reason why third party voters should get a pass. Especially when those two groups have so much in common.
Those “progressives” you’re writing about are children in university who think they are sheltered from the impact of Donald by mommy and daddy’s money.
Neither party gives a shit about what any youths say. Young adults (statistically) don’t actually show up to vote. 1/3 of the country just doesn’t vote.
I wish they did show up to vote at all so that it would make sense for Dems to chase their votes instead of moving further right. It would be cool to be discussing policies that help people instead of arguing about who will do the least amount of genocide.
Ah yes, the classic kick down on youth voters. Way to alienate your coalition partners, centrist. All for what, a self indulgent online tantrum?
All the progressives I know are 50 something years old like I am.
You are the one acting childish and entitled here, not the youth you denigrate. Hillary looked down her nose at youth too. Whats she been up to lately?
I’m not denigrating any coalition partners. By coalition partners, I mean anyone who actually shows up and actually votes for the least fascist candidate who has a chance of winning.
I’m sorry your feelings were harmed by hearing that people are not voting. Speaking of Hillary, how did she get into the general election given progressives are voting in such numbers? So odd.
read up on those stats yourself. The block of voters who voted for hillary the most were 18-29 year olds.
Trumps biggest camp were white voters who had not completed college, by a huge factor. Do you think those people are progressives? Most voters lack a college degree.
You have been infected with the idea that progressives cost Hillary the election because you lot were looking for people to blame who werent either centrists or hillary herself. So lies became truths for you lot, and even if your lies had been true you wouldnt want to evaluate why that dynamic existed. All you want to get to is an ability to lay blame, like thats useful, and you dont even do it accurately.
Right now, progressives are the ones saying “Democrats have failed and I cannot vote for them” and moderates are the ones saying “I’ve never voted for Democrats before, but this year I will.” This was true even before the Gaza invasion.
When someone tells you their voting intentions, believe them. Unfortunately, Democrats have no choice but to prioritize moderates.
Progressive voter intentions are to pressure the Harris campaign to stop the flow of weapons. If she did that she’d have her progressive vote. Progressive leadership climbed in with the Harris campaign early with endorsements. But you’ll notice that AOC has had enough of being ignored and is now unloading on Harris. Progressives wont simply blindly support an AIPAC hand puppet like centrists will.
Last year, progressives said they could not support Biden because of inflation. Or because of student debt. Or because of the BNSF strike.
It’s clear Democrats cannot rely on support from progressives, and for this reason it makes sense for Democrats to try to appeal to moderates. Unlike progressives, moderates seem willing to support Democrats as they are instead of requiring them to be something else.
Um no, laat year progressives were saying the same thing they are today, the Israelis have been bombing Palestine for over a year.
If that’s the case then there should be no argument from Dems about leftists voting third party in swing states.
Democrats argue with Trump supporters all the time, I see no reason why third party voters should get a pass. Especially when those two groups have so much in common.
Those “progressives” you’re writing about are children in university who think they are sheltered from the impact of Donald by mommy and daddy’s money.
Neither party gives a shit about what any youths say. Young adults (statistically) don’t actually show up to vote. 1/3 of the country just doesn’t vote.
I wish they did show up to vote at all so that it would make sense for Dems to chase their votes instead of moving further right. It would be cool to be discussing policies that help people instead of arguing about who will do the least amount of genocide.
Ah yes, the classic kick down on youth voters. Way to alienate your coalition partners, centrist. All for what, a self indulgent online tantrum?
All the progressives I know are 50 something years old like I am.
You are the one acting childish and entitled here, not the youth you denigrate. Hillary looked down her nose at youth too. Whats she been up to lately?
I’m not denigrating any coalition partners. By coalition partners, I mean anyone who actually shows up and actually votes for the least fascist candidate who has a chance of winning.
I’m sorry your feelings were harmed by hearing that people are not voting. Speaking of Hillary, how did she get into the general election given progressives are voting in such numbers? So odd.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
read up on those stats yourself. The block of voters who voted for hillary the most were 18-29 year olds.
Trumps biggest camp were white voters who had not completed college, by a huge factor. Do you think those people are progressives? Most voters lack a college degree.
You have been infected with the idea that progressives cost Hillary the election because you lot were looking for people to blame who werent either centrists or hillary herself. So lies became truths for you lot, and even if your lies had been true you wouldnt want to evaluate why that dynamic existed. All you want to get to is an ability to lay blame, like thats useful, and you dont even do it accurately.
Young adults show up to vote. Not as much as older generations, but they do. They also vote more when their candidate is any good.
Statistically, they do not show up in numbers that matter as much as the older generations.
Progressives vote more reliably than non progressives of their same age cohort. Always have.