This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

  • Kaboom@reddthat.comEnglish
    318·
    2 months ago

    Yup, by not committing a genocide and reclaiming their homeland, they’re much worse than the invaders who already committed one.

    (Israel is the ancestoral homeland of the Jews, Muslims committed a genocide when they conquered the area)

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      91·
      2 months ago

      Quick question - if Native Americans killed 1 out of every 50 US citizens in an attempt to drive them off of Native ancestral land, would this be:

      A. Ethnic cleansing

      OR

      B. Not ethnic cleansing

      ?

          • Kaboom@reddthat.comEnglish
            29·
            2 months ago

            Great, so we agree. White people committed a genocide against the Indians when they conquered the Americas, just like Muslims committed a genocide against the Jews when they conquered the Middle East.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              42·
              2 months ago

              Accepting that premise for the sake of the argument, since the history of the region’s disruption of the Jewish population predates Islam, so does that genocide justify another genocide some hundreds of years later?

                • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                  32·
                  2 months ago

                  Holy fucking shit dude, if you aren’t aware that the Jewish diaspora significantly pre-dates Islam and that there was no longer a Jewish majority in the region by the 7th century AD, I can’t fucking help you.

                • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                  31·
                  2 months ago

                  It doesn’t.

                  Okay, so far you’re in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?

                  • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
                    2·
                    2 months ago

                    I think there are some good arguments about what counts as an ethnic cleansing when the population is entirely homogenous.

                    Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity? What about the lack of diversity in Gaza? Turns into a semantic argument, really.

                  • Kaboom@reddthat.comEnglish
                    45·
                    2 months ago

                    Hamas is the one ethnically cleansing. The IDF isn’t. Remember, Hamas has been very explicit about wanting to kill every single Jew. It’s even in their charter. The IDF meanwhile does not want more Jews to die.