• verbalbotanics@beehaw.org
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    Feminism gave women all of the same rights and privileges as men

    Feminism hasn’t done that yet, we’re nowhere near equal rights and opportunities for women and if you don’t believe me, look at the gender balance in US government roles and who has the money and power.

    Let’s focus on dismantling patriarchy and the harm it creates for men as well.

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      Gender balance in government and business is not a proxy for equality.

      Woman are not institutionally prevented from campaigning for office. If they’re not voted in, that’s just democracy.

      Women are not institutionally prevented from climbing the corporate ladder. They largely prefer to have a more comfortable work/life balance.

      But they are accepted into college 2:1 compared to men.

      They do receive scholarships, educational, and career opportunities just for being women.

      They do receive an egregiously unfair advantage in family and divorce courts.

      Those are institutional.

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          I literally pointed out several factors that are objectively institutionally unequal. Pithy quotes won’t change that.

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            Hey, you can argue with me all day, but the people taking men’s slice of the pie ain’t the feminists.

            Let’s focus on the people shooting themselves into space on dick rockets and suits on the hill, and we’ll all benefit from it.

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              They can both be problems simultaneously, and it’s disingenuous to argue that there aren’t militant feminists pushing to keep all of the advantages from earlier eras.

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                This is a men’s lib forum, and men’s liberation is pro feminist (feel free to check the wiki or that nice bell hooks quote trending on this forum if you disagree).

                By being a strong ally to women, men benefit too, and I choose to keep doing that.

                You can have the last word if you like, I’m gonna peace out here.

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      This is BS, currently feminism looks to only strive after the cozy office places and various places of power. I didnt seen feminism once to call for equal numbers of female rig workers, construction workers, Alaska fishing jobs and similar… Feminists are mysteriously somehow always just after the lucrative office jobs…