• rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com
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      It’s like the inverse of American exceptionalism, it’s so weird. Improving people’s material conditions is more important than perpetuating ideology.

      I genuinely think we can thrive as a species under almost any economic system as long as companies are strictly regulated. Just fucking take care of people.

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        It’s like the inverse of American exceptionalism,

        Yes that’s definitely it. It’s people who have heard the stupid overly-patriotic American exceptionalism “America can do no wrong”, they know it’s obviously not true and so they switch to the reverse position of “America does all wrong” like it’s somehow more true.

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        IMHO, the ideology comes second after Venezuela being a part of debate between the West and the likes of Putin, so even if locals themselves resist against Maduro they’d be written off as foreign forces meddling in the politics of the sovereign state (I’ve already seen foreshadowing of it in ml-threads and russian news). If, on the other hand, Ukraine or other state got taken over by anti-western forces, there would be hoops to proclaim that’s what people want or that’s for the cause of ~~anti-~~imperialism. That binary logic may covers itself in legit arguments and historical contexts, like a distorted perception of aboriginal cultures, but the foundational block is usually that, and it’s supported by a whole different stream of propaganda.

        I double your last sentence. And it’s people who need and depend on doing that.