Boxer loses fight, conservatives pretend to care about women or womens’ sports and lose their minds. Same song, different day.
Imagine. All the horrible, tragic, and important things happening in the world and what you all choose to (pretend to) care about is the chromosomal makeup of Olympic boxers.
Also the boxer isn’t even trans. The article says she grew up female and her parents discouraged her from getting into boxing as a kid because it was seen as a masculine sport. It seems like she only discovered she has a Y chromosome once she joined a boxing league that checked the chromosomes of boxers. The Olympics don’t have rules regarding chromosomes of athletes so she’s allowed to compete.
@ImplyingImplications @originalfrozenbanana Finally, somebody here is getting to the root of the discussion.
Does #ImaneKhelif have a Y chromosome? Maybe she is #intersex or something. At first I thought she just might have above average #testosterone or was juicing.
I am no fan of men competing against women but I feel like if she was #trans, she would have either said something about it, or someone from her past would have.
@ImplyingImplications @originalfrozenbanana
people who justify men beating up women simply don’t belong in civilized society. outside of election results that beggar belief, it’s easy to just decide these shills aren’t real - like the bots we see that forget to change the language, or the paid astroturf accounts.
OMG did you hear about project 2025? women will be men’s property? uh, no, you’re thinking of the olympics. the opening ceremony was mentall illness, this is just more of hte same.
Saying “He’s not even trans, he’s just a regular dude punching women” is a helluva take
Huh? I said she was born female and is female. She’s cis. She’s a woman from birth.
Anyone born with a Y chromosome is a man or intersex. He didn’t know he was a man/intersex until later in life, but that absolutely refutes “born female”, “is female”, “she’s cis”, and “woman from birth”. He should not be in women’s sports, because he is not a woman
Kinda weird you’re saying someone born with a vagina is a man but alright.
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Have you checked or are you just saying what makes you feel nice?
My comment was not long, I’m not sure why you skipped past the “or intersex” twice in it.
I don’t know what’s in his pants. I haven’t seen anyone claim other than you that he has a vagina, but that doesn’t really matter. Intersex people can have ambiguous genitals. He is still not a woman, and should not be in women’s sports. He is free to compete in men’s sports.
Saying “He’s not even trans, he’s just a regular dude punching women” is a helluva take
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
sometimes, god is a filthy, godless liberal and makes non-binary people. It’s advanced biology.
We agree with each other? He’s either a man or intersex. He shouldn’t be competing in women’s sports.
Anything thing to deflect attention away from their geriatric convicted felon candidate and his project 2025.
why are you so scared of project 2025? have you even read it?
Cause it’s a weird little fascist manual written by weird old white men with weird ideas leading the weird little party of creeps. The whole thing is unnerving, odd, and creepy. Yuck. Buncha fucking weirdos.
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Summarize its contents?
I’m not here to debate you about your weird plans. I’m here to mock them for being bad. No one has to dance when you start playing music. If you don’t know what’s in your own party’s playbook, go google it instead of asking strangers about what they are.
@originalfrozenbanana @intensely_human Haha! You don’t know what it says! 🤭 😂
No I’m just not going to play your game. This is why people think you guys are so weird. You make up these silly little games, then declare yourselves the victors when no one wants to play them.
what’s so weird about it?
and did you read it?
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You’re cute when you’re mad.
Like an impotent little puppy who tries to be intimidating when they’re humping your leg.
great contribution from some nobody who aspires to be antifa. let me guess - everyone who disagrees with you is a white supremacist, especially those uppity black conservatives!
OMG how adorable! 🥰
He tried to nip at me with his little toofers!
So scaawwy!
@DarkDecay @originalfrozenbanana Y’all supported #JoeBiden and he would be convicted for having classified documents if he wasn’t so old that his brain has stopped working properly. Being geriatric is something #BlueAnon has no problem with, in actuality.
Lmao. Ok
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@DarkDecay Just pointing out how disingenuous your criticisms of #Trump are. It’s too easy!
This is why it’s better to stick to defending policy. Now y’all are trapped, accusing Republicans of doing everything you guys are largely still doing and being lol
What ever makes you feel better muffin. Just know no one really cares what a conservative thinks
@DarkDecay And that’s fine. The hypocrisy is really just fun to point out, I understand that a lot of #Lemmy users are too far gone into the #BlueAnon rabbit hole to have their minds changed on anything.
Convicted felon supporter says what?
Joe Biden stepped down from the race to let someone else run, so I’m not really sure what the fuck you’re talking about. He’s not the candidate? Who are you yelling at lol you’re the one with a nearly 80 year old sex predator friend of Epstein who stored top secret documents in a bathroom as your candidate. My goodness yall are really shallow as a puddle over there, huh?
> He’s not the candidate?
I never said #JoeBiden stepped down, I said you guys voted for someone older than the person you’re making fun of for being old. There’s a difference. I’m criticizing your side’s hypocrisy, not attacking a politician. Keep up!
> you’re the one with a nearly 80 year old sex predator
Never proven, this is one of those #BlueAnon conspiracy theories
> friend of Epstein
Who banned #Epstein from #MarALago when he tried to hit on the underage daughter of one of its members, yes
> who stored top secret documents in a bathroom as your candidate.
Kinda like how #JoeBiden stored top secret documents in his car and garage?
See like I said you don’t care about any of these things, you just don’t like #Trump. If you cared about these critiques, you would not have supported #JoeBiden while he was running for president.
Biden cooperated with record requests. Why didn’t Trump? The only reason Biden was investigated was so that your side could use it as a talking point about how they are both the same when they are not.
It is very common for some records to need to be returned during and after a presidency. It is NOT AT ALL common for presidents to refuse those requests. THAT is the difference.
> Biden cooperated with record requests. Why didn’t Trump?
It’s telling that you are choosing to move the goalposts all the way over there.
> The only reason Biden was investigated was so that your side could use it as a talking point about how they are both the same when they are not.
Source?
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When they are in mens spaces like boxing yes
All those things can also be bad. Do you agree that this is bad, though?
Nope not even a little.
You should just state “I am a misogynist” then instead of trying to deflect by saying other bad things exist too. People are allowed to care about multiple bad things going on at the same time.
Your presidential candidate is an actual sex predator, your political party consistently erodes the rights of women, and I guarantee none of you could name either woman boxer from the story without checking twice. Your credibility when it comes to what misogyny is is nil
Biden’s pullout from Afghanistan left a country where women are stoned to death for attending school.
But sure, it’s the Republicans eroding the rights of women.
You literally just got done eviscerating abortion rights and are in the process of going after IVF and birth control. You get to shut the fuck up about women basically forever. The right has absolutely zero moral credibility here. None. Zilch. Don’t pretend to suddenly care about women in Afghanistan, you ghoul.
@originalfrozenbanana @intensely_human “Everyone who disagrees with me on the personhood of fetuses hates women” type beat 🤣
@intensely_human @originalfrozenbanana To be fair to #JoeBiden, the state of affairs in #Afghanistan isn’t really our foremost priority. We probably shouldn’t have even gone there in the first place. Unless they’re threatening us, what happens over there is their business.
@originalfrozenbanana @Amoxtli
it’s a MAN punching a WOMAN in the face. but of course didn’t take long for the “but AYECKSHUALLY” chorus to crawl out from whatever holes they hide in. go ahead, tell us all why this is great for anyone outside of the depraved child-raping lizard people who run these institutions?
Fantastic take, loved the bit about lizard people. 10/10
you’re so edgy, right? as if this is some isolated thing and not a symptom/outcome. if you’re not going to actively resist it then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.
I actively resist the lizard people every day. I swear to do everything in my power to actively resist any and all lizard people I meet.
no shortage of great contributions from this worthless shitbag. I bet you fancy yourself a progressive, eh? but whoever provides your opinions told you that includes men beating women up and then taunting them. but how does it affect YOU PERSONALLY, right? you fucking loser. scoop the cheetos out from under your fat folds and go back to reddit.
You sure are real mad about someone not agreeing with you about LIZARD PEOPLE RAPING CHILDREN.
Seek help
It’s so funny how he just tell you what makes him insecure.
He just came outta nowhere on me with the “so I’m a racist?!” Bro just tattles on himself over and over LMAO!
Buncha weirdos.
Whoa, triggered much? Lmao
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She’s not a man. Either you think everyone with XY chromosomes is a man, even if they have female genitals, or you acknowledge that neither genitals nor chromosomes alone are sufficient to define gender and you acknowledge that trans people exist as their identified gender. You don’t get it both ways.
Sorry I forgot for a second where I was and just wasted all that energy typing out something you won’t read because your side doesn’t care about the truth.
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So wait do you care about biology or the insular rules of various international sporting bodies? It’s hard to keep up with whatever you’re pretending to care about
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You come in here making a lot of WILD accusations you can’t seem to backup, calling people names and claiming to have a moral stance, yet everything you’ve said is a total reach.
I think you should go back on your meds or something.
No you don’t lol. I love when you right fucks try to pretend you care about women or women’s sports all of a sudden. Literally no one buys it. “Aw golly gee I just care about fairness in women’s sports” nah bro you hate trans and nonbinary people. Own it! Be the bigot you really are, loud and proud!
Woah hold on. I have been informed Angela Carini has 5 fights under her belt. How is somebody with 5 fights in the Olympics? That’s why she lost, she had no business being there. This has nothing to do with gender or sex, it was about experience and skill.
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Thank you for your input friend, but where did I say I thought men fighting women is ok?
What I did say was that I thought for the Olympics, which is ostensibly supposed to be for elete level athletes, it makes no sense to put someone with 5 fights in their career up against someone with 50. That Italian woman was the Jamaican bobsled team of boxing.
I think I understand your point about the testing though. Fun fact: you know who else was all about regulating people based on genetics? Rudolph Hess and the rest of the nazi crew. Hess said that Nazism was “applied biology” and what with all the people talking about biology this and biology that I see those ideas haven’t died out.
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This circles back to why we sexual sports leagues to being with.
If a xy athlete has a statistical advantage over a xx athlete, do we care?
If we don’t care then we setup one league regardless of genders.
If we do care, then we segment the groups and have multiple leagues.
the IOC is going to have to come out with a clear mission statement and define the purpose of their parallel leagues. I think there will be lots of debate as people are mixing gender identity vs chromosomes and developmental hormones. I don’t envy the IOC officials
I feel like their plan is to just keep avoiding the discussion until something bad happens or we hit a flashpoint moment of some sort, and that’s going to be bad for everyone except the IOC because they can say they were ‘forced to take action’ and wash their hands of it.
I hate where we’re at but I get their reasoning, I don’t see any fair solution here, they’re all unfair.
I do kind of respect their approach. We’re just going to go by what’s on the passport.
Kind of kicking in the can, but let other countries work it out
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The reason for women’s leagues is to encourage women to join and enjoy the sport. Hard to enjoy a sport when the opponents demolish you every time. Thus, women’s leagues are closed to men, but men’s leagues are open to women.
@Kaboom TBF I love gaming and I suck at it. But I guess most people aren’t like that.
@Amoxtli There is no proof that #ImaneKhelif is even #trans lol
Fascists down vote truth.
@AncientFutureNow I’m really glad I hedged at the time, turns out she’s most likely intersex.
I’m probably someone you’d call a “fascist” because I’m voting for #Trump, but you can’t just be a mere reactionary with out basing your arguments in fact at least. Like, going off about men being in womens’ sports over this incident makes zero sense when you don’t even know if this person is a man or not!
Just to clarify, you are fascists if you’re voting for trump.
@TexMexBazooka Haha sure buddy. Like anyone who votes for #KamalaHarris is a socialist? This country is filled with nothing but fascists and socialists?
LOL give me a break dude 😂 Don’t fall for the extreme #MSM and terminally online political rhetoric.
She’s intersex apparently, and produces much more testosterone than a ciswoman does
@Kaboom General consensus seems to be that she has #SwyerSyndrome, with #XY chromosomes but male reproductive organs, but I haven’t seen that strongly confirmed as of yet
