• Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    in this case it just sounds like you believe trans people don’t exist or are mentally ill members of their birth gender.

    Are you okay? I’m pretty sure trans people exist. That’s the weirdest accusation I’ve heard for a while. What are they holograms then?

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      Ask the groups of conservatives arguing that trans people are either just a trend, a cult of pedophiles trying to groom your kids, a cult trying to destroy young girls wombs or perform life changing surgery on children, or any of a number of other accusations that say that trans people don’t exist, including the two they mentioned. These are the kinds of “anti-LGBT arguments” that they claim are being censored.

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        or any of a number of other accusations that say that trans people don’t exist

        Can you actually show us some evidence to support what you’re saying here? No one says “trans people don’t exist”.

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      No, as I said, your argument is that they aren’t really the gender that they say they are, but whatever gender you say they are. That’s claiming they aren’t actually trans, which is denying the existence of trans people… which is transphobic.

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        I don’t agree with that.

        It’s not their gender I have issues with. You can claim to be anything you want and I’m fine by that. It’s only when people start demanding special treatment when I stop being nice.

        In my native language there is no even he/she pronoun. The word is “hän” and it’s gender neutral. You can be male, female, FTM, MTF, non-binary or what ever and you’re still called “hän”. That is what inclusivity looks like. Progress is caring less about ones race and gender - not more.

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          It doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not; the definition of transphobia does not depend on your agreement. Simply that you act transphobic, which you do. (And respecting other people as long as they’re nice to you is a really crappy way to act. People deserve respect for who they are even if they won’t gratify your ego.)

          Luckily for queer people, progress can actually be made by caring about your sexuality and gender. Imagine if what you said was actually true, what an awful dystopia we’d be living in!

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            the definition of transphobia does not depend on your agreement

            If you’re going to go by definitions then you have to have the element of “fear” in there. You’re scared of trans people - that’s what the “phobia” part means. Are you saying that people that disagree with biological men participating in womens sport are scared of trans people?