You claimed that a person doesn’t have to be against all reproduction to be antinatalist
No, I said antinatalists believe that procreation is not ethically correct, but that not every antinatalist advocates for the same thing on a political level or acts the same about these ideas.
I think you are talking of this: ‘few antinatalists think that the point must be to cease all reproduction and that antinatalism fails if they don’t’.
I meant to say that many antinatalists do not see AN as a political movement which fails if the goal of human extinction is not achieved. They see it more as an ethical stance which thinks reproduction is incorrect. You could argue the next step should be doing something about it if we really believe this, but that’s the variety of personalities and strategies that I meant to bring to the table. Some will go to the streets and indeed try to convince every single person not to reproduce. But, for example, I do not try to convince but my closest social circle because I feel my responsibility ends at giving the small guidance I can give over the internet or wherever. Some simply believe that an antinatalistic agenda would be unattainable, unrealistic, utopic. Some antinatalists are only antinatalists under certain circumstances that they think might change in the future (so they do not think human extinction or similar things are desirable, they just want a pause in reproduction).
There are a lot of flavors, I guess. The explanation was for the person that said that antinatalism is always to expect human extinction. Sorry for the confusion.
You claimed that a person doesn’t have to be against all reproduction to be antinatalist but … yes they do?
Being ethically against having kids but not believing that’s a universal ethical rule just means you’re a person who doesn’t want kids.
No, I said antinatalists believe that procreation is not ethically correct, but that not every antinatalist advocates for the same thing on a political level or acts the same about these ideas.
I think you are talking of this: ‘few antinatalists think that the point must be to cease all reproduction and that antinatalism fails if they don’t’.
I meant to say that many antinatalists do not see AN as a political movement which fails if the goal of human extinction is not achieved. They see it more as an ethical stance which thinks reproduction is incorrect. You could argue the next step should be doing something about it if we really believe this, but that’s the variety of personalities and strategies that I meant to bring to the table. Some will go to the streets and indeed try to convince every single person not to reproduce. But, for example, I do not try to convince but my closest social circle because I feel my responsibility ends at giving the small guidance I can give over the internet or wherever. Some simply believe that an antinatalistic agenda would be unattainable, unrealistic, utopic. Some antinatalists are only antinatalists under certain circumstances that they think might change in the future (so they do not think human extinction or similar things are desirable, they just want a pause in reproduction).
There are a lot of flavors, I guess. The explanation was for the person that said that antinatalism is always to expect human extinction. Sorry for the confusion.