Is covid-liberalism a bannable offense in c/covid?
I’m getting really fucking weary of seeing sentiments like, “being upset about someone scheduling a non-emergency dental appointment in the middle of the second largest covid wave is deranged” or “you’re a selfish asshole for expecting your loved ones to do the bare fucking minimum to protect you” in discussions on masking or vaccine uptake
I know I’m not the only one disappointed in the growing anomie. Maybe we should operate more like c/vegan where everything from omnivore apologia to overt antiveganism (analogous to the above anti-precaution/anti-max/anti-vax-apologia) is forbidden, and posting/commenting as much gets you a ban?
I’ve been saying it for four years, the virus doesn’t give a fuck about your politics, you’re not owning anyone, you’re just shaving decades off your lifespan, which I guess technically means you’re owning yourself
If we were a sane society, people not practicing safe covid precautions should receive an ass-whooping, because it would count as self-defense
I think the virus really likes capitalism. It’s done a lot for it.
I knew Hexbear had given in to being plague rats when there was massive discourseTM and treat-defending on Barbenheimer when the only thought I had was, “you fuckers willingly jumped into the Covid death trap called movie theaters for the sake of two fucking movies. You risked getting long Covid and infecting other people with Covid for two shitty movies you won’t even remember in 5 years.” I sympathize if you’re talking about an important social gathering like a wedding or if you’re trying to organize with people who unfortunately are plague rats, but how much of a fucking treat-brained plague rat do you have to be to not wait 6 goddamn months before those movies show up on Netflix?
It’s Joever for the broader site.
Hexbear has historically been one of the few anti-covid communities out there that isn’t primarily focused on Covid, at least that I’ve found. It should absolutely be a bannable offense, I’d argue from the site. I did not realize we had a struggle session about Covid, wtf.
Maybe we should operate more like c/vegan where everything from omnivore apologia to overt antiveganism (analogous to the above anti-precaution/anti-max/anti-vax-apologia) is forbidden, and posting/commenting as much gets you a ban?
I agree with this. We should have at least one place where COVID can be discussed without people coming in to scold people for not kissing strangers on New Year’s Eve.
Maybe we should operate more like c/vegan where everything from omnivore apologia to overt antiveganism (analogous to the above anti-precaution/anti-max/anti-vax-apologia) is forbidden, and posting/commenting as much gets you a ban?
The !vegan@hexbear.net sidebar has lots of resources that lurkers can use to educate themselves before posting, but the !covid@hexbear.net sidebar does not. If the sidebar includes resources about dentist safety, moderating comments that express unfamiliarity with or opposition to those resources seems reasonable.
Yes please
I don’t remember Hexbears being this bad about COVID before :(
Hexbear has grown a lot in recent months, we have over 900 daily users now
The signs were already there with Barbenheimer discourseTM. How do you have strong opinions about those two films without seeing the two films and how do you see the two films if they weren’t released on Netflix? Yep, you would totally have strong opinions of those two films after watching shitty pirated torrents and not, you know, jumping into the Covid death traps called movie theaters.
i saw someone share that covid.tips resource a while back that I think would also be good as a sidebar resource
Very telling that most of the people bashing OP in the other thread are new here and probably aren’t aware of c/covid and the culture this site has about taking COVID seriously.
Yeah, I’ve bit my tongue a few times outside c/covid lately about people angry at being judged for not masking, and it’s almost always been newer accounts.
The critics were using slurs, saying they rarely mask, and making common cause with libs from other instances. Thanks to the mods for cleaning stuff up.
I don’t know what liberalism is even supposed to mean in this context; surely any sort of Marxist or materialist analysis would tend to put the blame on the systemic forces shoving people into the orphan juicing machine, not on the individuals navigating the systems incompetently.
YouSomeone else was deliberately undermining evidence-based precautionary advice regarding vaccines and masking, despite, apparently possessing the knowledge and tools to see that what you were dispensing was at best merely dismissive of individual efforts towards harm reduction in their own lives, and at its worst, simply harmful advice.To be aware of one’s own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.
edited: sorry, I’m losing my mind and conflated you with another user
You were deliberately undermining evidence-based precautionary advice regarding vaccines and masking
Yes, as evidenced by the fact that I stated I masked everyday in a KN95, spray ELAH in my nostrils twice daily, and have every vaccine I am eligible for.
Look you don’t get to pretend everyone who has a different take on the morality of individual covid precautions is undermining the science of individual covid precautions. I was arguing with a colleague in March 2020 about the efficacy of the N95 I was wearing to the store because “CDC said there’s no evidence those help”, I’m not about to take accusations of mask efficacy minimization from you seriously.
I 100% conflated you and another user. I’m so sorry for my aggression. Everything about covid, especially seeing people here doing what I erroneously accused you of has really been eroding my sanity.
No worries, that whole thing was a mess.
Cheers!
(Edit: The way I originally wrote this comment came off as apologetics. I’m not changing it for sake of authenticity. Please note at the outset that I’m speaking from the perspective of preserving community health while taking as much precautions as one is able to. I’m not making an argument for individual actions to mitigate COVID being enough.)
The whole getting made at scheduling a non-emergency dental appointment thing is a little strange to me. There’s a lot to be mad at, but people still need to receive healthcare. Of course you should take as many precautions as possible. You can insist your provider wear an n95 and take other precautions. You can even lie and say you live with a severely immunocompromised person. Hopefully your provider will understand your concerns and work with you.
I’m gonna use one of liberals’ favorite words here in sec, but hear me out. Insisting people postpone healthcare, even routine healthcare like your annual dental appointment, seems counterproductive. Not in a social sense that saying so can make people take a reactionary stance, “How dare you tell me what to do and when to go to the doctor.” More in the sense that routine, preventative care is essential for community health.
I’m probably wrong somewhere in my analysis. I’ve definitely not thought this all the way through. Any other perspectives are appreciated.
(Edit again: I figured out what was bothering me about the being mad about making a non-emergency dental appointment thing so much. It’s just really American take. Kinda assumes that dental care is somehow separate from healthcare, and moreover that preventative care is less important than emergency care.)
I agree
This post is getting popular
This community exists for the few of us left who genuinely still care about the virus’ impact on humanity and we are not ones who disregard prioritizing our health and the health of our loved ones.
This is a space to share research, to educate and to be educated with the little resources we have available to us, however we feel about this virus shouldn’t concern you and if you want to ignore the virus and pretend it doesn’t exist go ahead and do that but we won’t back down from trying to protect you or tell you how dangerous Covid is, we are still living in a pandemic.
Do not come here for a fight because you will be banned immediately.
Thank you for your service
Agreed. Unmask a Liberal and a Fascist will try to sell you on a Eugenics of apathy and, “Well, actually.”
yeah like we hear enough of that rhetoric irl i don’t think it has a place in c/covid