PROTIP: Opposition to interventionism in the Middle East does not have to equate to support for the currently extant states therein.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    You seem completely incapable of nuance, which is hilarious considering how mad you get at people no supporting your choice of genocidal corpse president.

    Sorry that you’re so eager for genocide and mass sexual violence here under a Christian Republic in the same Abrahamic vein as Iran’s current government, but I don’t really see the relevance?

    You seem fixated on the idea that we worship these governments and it really seems like projection, especially considering how defensive you get over the US government and its wanton destruction.

    Considering that you were just WhatAbouting the Islamic Republic’s mass murder and sexual violence against protesters? Uh, gonna go with “It doesn’t matter if you count that as worship, it’s still bad”.

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      4 months ago

      Sorry that you’re so eager for genocide and mass sexual violence here under a Christian Republic in the same Abrahamic vein as Iran’s current government, but I don’t really see the relevance?

      Look I voted for Hillary last time, you clearly don’t need my vote this time.

      you were just WhatAbouting the Islamic Republic’s mass murder and sexual violence against protesters

      This is the part where you just make shit up so I have to spend time responding. You are the one trying to browbeat people into approving your teams genocide.

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        4 months ago

        This is the part where you just make shit up so I have to spend time responding.

        Lmao. Anyone can follow the comment thread and see you play ‘Whataboutism’ games about a brutal theocracy’s mass murder and sexual violence.

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          4 months ago

          The part I pointed out the issue with was the implied “and we should do something about it”. You said “and this is why they must be toppled” - which implies that somebody should do something. When the entirety of recent history has been the US trying to meddle with other governments and collectively punishing the people who live there with sanctions, if not outright invading them, shock and awing their infrastructure, and setting up a government for a former expat to run.

          You are just trying to flatten everything to extremely recent events, it don’t hold up to scrutiny otherwise.

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            You are just trying to flatten everything to extremely recent events, it don’t hold up to scrutiny otherwise.

            Oh, I’m so sorry for bringing up recent events, I’ll keep in mind that when I bring up and link recent events, talking about recent events, and explicitly discuss the repercussions of recent events started and sustained by Iranians in their own country, what I REALLY am doing is… [checks notes] American imperialism.

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              4 months ago

              I mean we do agree that internal political will being met is good, so how about moving on to where we disagree: Bidens genocide and why you’re so insistent everyone else approve of it.

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                4 months ago

                so how about moving on to where we disagree

                “How about we stop talking about the issue at hand and change the subject?”

                I mean, if you want to end the conversation here, that’s fine, I understand it’s embarrassing to be called out on an entire chain of whataboutisms in defense of a theocracy’s campaign of rape and murder against protesters, just don’t pretend like it’s a natural extension of the conversation, lol.

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                  4 months ago

                  I’ve encountered this one before. Their only purpose in life is to find a counter argument, and mock you for something. It is impossible to fight them because they aren’t trying to win or lose, just wear you down. They have no actual opinions on anything. And most likely, they feel like a total loser in real life.

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                  4 months ago

                  You have such a fascinating approach to argument, it’s like creative writing where you just make shit up and refuse to address anything directly lmao