Just two months ago, Biden said that the invasion of Rafah is a “red line” Israel must not cross.

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    i’m going to copy/paste this to the only 2 comments this thread is getting:

    if you look at the up/down votes the last half dozen biden/gaza threads on the fediverse over 100, you’ll see that there’s nearly 2:1 votes in favor of biden perpetuation genocide.

    the fediverse was started by tankies and is, arguably, the most left leaning social media platform out there and even here, moderates dominate the conversation.

    add to that the fact that the democratic party is successfully using abortion to get votes and rfk jr is a much bigger threat to trump than biden; it’s pretty clear that biden will win not matter what.

    i’ll leave this quote from mlk jir because it helps me accept this thing that i cannot change:

    I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

    Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

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      I keep harping on this point, if Progressives put in the effort of being a persistent voting bloc, democratic politicians would be a lot more scared of the possibility of being primaried than they are of the possibility that progressives yet again will need to be reminded how the math works on them not voting or voting third party out of spite.

      This is literally how the far right captured the republican party. I sign my name in Arabic, 30 years ago that would have been an easy guess that I voted republican, along with most Latine and Asian folks. Persistent electoral projection is how the right took the party that marketed itself as the big tent for all traditional values in america and turned it into the Racist Chrisnats we deal with at present. Had the left put in the same effort over the same period of time, Bernie would be considered a party establishment leader.

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        Young voters don’t vote as much as other demographics, but they definitely do vote. I think it was 40% turnout in 2016, but don’t quote me on it. Anyway that 40% is definitely disproportionately republican, but there’s a good number of democrats there. The idea that the Democrats have nothing to lose by antagonizing young people is wrong.

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        I keep harping on this point, if Progressives put in the effort of being a persistent voting bloc, democratic politicians would be a lot more scared of the possibility of being primaried than they are of the possibility that progressives yet again will need to be reminded how the math works on them not voting or voting third party out of spite.

        voter suppression and gerrymandering; coupled with moderates’ lack of interest; have guaranteed that there will never be a reliable progressive voting bloc.

        latinos, as a whole, have always favored democratic candidates and have been trending towards republicans in the last 3 decades; but are still solidly democratic voters. however, that ratio of democrat to republican favorability changes drastically when you focus on the specific origin of each latino group.

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      Yeah it’s pretty disturbing. But I definitely disagree with you that Biden is for sure going to win. Looking at polls and just in general how apathetic people are about these candidates I don’t see how you can think that a Biden second term is a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination.