• ramenshaman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    I just bought a used model 3 this week. I went to a supercharger station and there were 10 other teslas there and most of them were white, the rest were black, there may have been one or two gray ones there. Almost all of them were Xs or Ys. Mine is blue so I don’t feel too bad. I’ve been contemplating getting a wrap, maybe green, but it’s hard for me to justify spending that much money just to be a little different aesthetically.

    I hate Elon but there’s some great engineering that went into the Teslas, except maybe the Cybertruck. There really aren’t any other electric cars that are quite as good. I like the idea of a Kia EV6 or a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and they look great, but surprisingly the EV6 didn’t have nearly as much head room as the model 3, and I’m 6’4". I look forward to the day when Tesla ditches Elon.

    • yesmeisyes@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      31
      ·
      6 months ago

      IMO the day Tesla ditches Elon is the day unstoppable decline starts within the company. People get complacent and stop innovating. Elon has stopped this from happening so many times now.

      I don’t personally agree with everything Elon says but you can’t deny his ability to push the boundaries and get stuff done.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        6 months ago

        I can’t deny his ability to push boundaries and get stuff done. Wouldn’t say that’s a good thing as the boundaries he pushes are more often labor laws than innovation.

        The fact is that good leadership is more stable than this. What Tesla really should want is closer to the way Boeing did pre merger like 30+ years ago where they see themselves as an engineering firm with a product rather than a product company. They’ve clearly done a lot of great stuff regarding batteries and such, but they’re terrible at auto manufacturing, and they’re held both up and down by their vision of themselves as a tech company. Their fsd is cool and also going to get them in trouble with the dot and nhtsa. Move fast and break things was sketchy for Facebook and fatal for an automotive company.

      • Thorny_Insight
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        17
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        Steve Jobs was widely known as a huge asshole aswell but I think it’s pretty undeniable that he was also a genious. I think the same applies to Elon. He pretty much single handedly popularized electric vehicles and the innovation he’s pushing on rocket technology and satellite internet is quite amazing especially considering it’s all coming from a single man. I wish he’d get off social media and focus on what matters. I still hope that he succeeds though, because the world benefits from it.

        It seems quite common that exceptional people like him more often than not come with their not so positive personality quirks and he’s no exception here.

          • Thorny_Insight
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            6 months ago

            Maybe one day instead of just jokes and downvotes someone actually tells me what I’m wrong about.

            • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              It’s kind of like when you meet a flat earther… We’ve all met folks like you, and at this point none of us want to waste our time.

              There’s so much obvious evidence to the contrary of what you’re suggesting here. “Genius” must be one of the most abused terms of the 21st century.

              • Thorny_Insight
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                Ad-hominem seems to be the most common argument aganst my views on this indeed.

                • BigDiction@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  It could be the use of single man twice in the same paragraph that is a bit irking. Obviously there are teams of people actually designing and executing what these companies deliver. There’s certainly something to what Musk decides to manage that proves successful.

                  • Thorny_Insight
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    Sure, but that’s true with all other successful people aswell. There’s always a team of competent professionals behind them. However I think it’s still true to say that you could pick any individual from that team and replace them with someone else with no significant change to the end product but once you remove the head figure the innovation is very likely going to stop right there.

            • ramenshaman@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              6 months ago

              My time on Reddit taught me not to expect explanations after receiving downvotes. It wasn’t me though 🤷‍♂️

              Edit: case in point