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      It’s fucking hard. My kids school has religious or ethics studies, we picked ethics for our first kid. About 3 weeks into term he mentioned something about god and I was like wtf where did he hear that and asked and he said in bible class… I was pretty upset and assume the school ignore us and put him in that class. A bit more questioning and worked out he picked it to be with his friends. We finally decided to let him continue and make up his own mind. His now in year 4, and I think he has done Catholic, Hebrew and Hindu just following different friends into which one he wants, just this year he said he doesn’t believe in god he just doesn’t like ethics…

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        Let him continue and make up his own mind

        You are a good parent :)

        Take it from someone with now adult kids - telling a child they’re forbidden something or shouldn’t learn about it is an absolute guarantee they’ll do it.

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      Yeah also, we dislike organized religion not the concept of god itself. The 2nd panel should be “I’ve joined a socially-acceptable cult”. There’s nothing anti-atheist about God which can mean a million different things, not necessarily a creationist deity.

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        How do people come up with the crazy stupid definitions of atheism?

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        “Atheism - Absence of belief in the existence of deities/god; the opposite of theism”

        You literally do the opposite. Maybe that’s your personal way of believing and that’s totally fine, but the term “atheism” has a official and specific definition. I’m a agnostic myself and I think a lot of people call themselves atheists but actually only oppose organized religion. If the concept of a god or the deities outside of religion is a theoretically possible concept for you, then you’re an agnostic!

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          Technically there are 4 basic positions and the two terms should be used together. Gnostic/Agnostic & theist/atheist.

          Gnostics know their position is correct. Agnostics don’t.

          Gnosticism deals with the problem of knowledge.

          Theism deals with the problem of belief.

          Many theists are gnostic. They know their God is real. Some theists are agnostic. They don’t know if their God is real, but they still believe in them.

          Many atheists are agnostic. While they do not believe in a god, they do not know with certainty that gods do not exist.

          From a theoretical standpoint, typically agnostic is the position most people should take, since the process of proving the existence/ non existence of God is typically considered impossible.

          This terms weak/strong are also used to describe these positions where weak is the agnostic and strong is the gnostic position.

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    I’m atheist but this sub is so fucking cringe that I’m embarrassed to be one

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      What you’re seeing is unresolved trauma. Breaking away from religion can be an emotional, traumatic, socially isolating experience. And if people don’t put in the work to heal, it comes out like this.

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        “Shit I gave birth to a moron” is just straight up pretentious and has that fedora redditor energy thinking they’re superior to theists. Just let them have some sort of concept of god as a coping system. Doesn’t mean you’re better then them.

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          Yep, that edge is the trauma showing. Why would someone need to be edgy if they were confident? They still haven’t processed their issues and they need to.

          That said, having religion as a coping mechanism is dangerous. One you believe something that large without evidence, you can be easily conned and manipulated. This is exactly what we see in America, and look how that’s going.

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            You just did what you said is bad lol. Sometimes it’s not the act of prayer to a greater being, but rather praying itself that helps them. Like a way to connect to the universe. God is ultimately an abstract concept anyways.

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                I think they’re just determined to cringe at literally anything they ever see. The “edge” here is just a choice of humor style.

                And calling theists morons is pretty easy seeing that they can obviously easily fall for anything. Believing in God in and of itself is just a blip of ignorance, and we all have a million of those. But the fact it leads to so many other wrong beliefs makes it correct.

                In other words, they’re not a moron for being a theist, but being one will make them a moron.

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          thinking they’re superior to theists

          Which we are, at least when it comes to the field of believing in fairy tales well into adulthood.

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            This is the cringe I’m talking about. This is like the stereotype reddit neckbeard fedora behavior.

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      It’s just social media being a retarded echo chamber of people who don’t get out much. The reality is most Christians AND atheists don’t give af about other’s beliefs; more occupied with living their own lives instead. Online has a lot of tribalism mentality.

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    I’m an Atheist.

    But I sort of wish I could believe. It would be a lot easier than raw dogging the existential crisis.

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    As a borderline atheist/agnostic, I don’t really mind my kids learning about religion, they’re even in a Catholic school (not my idea though). I’ll actually tell them what I can about Christian beliefs and other non-Christian religions as well, as a sort of subtle way of showing them, “None of these people have a monopoly on the truth. If this other religion’s beliefs sound weird, then think again about what they’re teaching you.” I don’t try to be condescending or insulting or anything, I don’t want my kids to feel like I’m pushing them one way or another, but I want them to know that there isn’t a single version of the “truth”.

    I think if I’ve done my job correctly as a parent and instilled my kids with critical thinking skills, the more they learn about religion the more it will push them away from it. I’d rather they come to a decision on it themselves, rather than just blindly following me. If instead they do become religious, then that’s fine too, the same way I wouldn’t mind if they came out as LGBTQ+ or as a Swiftie, whatever happiness looks like to them is ok by me.

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        Not trying to be a cunt. You obviously don’t have to use the correct words if you don’t want to, just seems like a better way to convey your meaning to others. As a further example, is your second sentence a question? It appears to be worded as a question, but without a question mark I am forced to guess at your meaning. If you are indeed asking if I’m happy now, I would say I’m about halfway there.

        Also, I enjoyed your meme. Thank you for sharing.

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    Me in the 2nd panel: LUCKY ASSHOLE. You’re not going to die terrified of oblivion. It’d be so nice to be able to brainwash myself into believing in heaven lol.

    My best hope is turning my consciousness into a Cookie and uploading ourselves into a digital heaven ala Electronic Singularity. Pretty sure I was born 200 years early for that.

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          If it makes you feel any better, there is a good chance we’re living at the peak of civilization and it’s all downhill from here (or been going downhill for a while, depending on your perspective).

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            Every generation has their world ending doom scenario. I’m not saying that the problems we currently face are not substantial, but historically civilization has just kept plodding along.

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          Bingo lol. Life is a fucking blast. Not knowing how shit ends and all that other random bullshittery you’d like to know if you had a Dev Console is just sad.

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    Even theists woudn’t believe it. If I told some believer “I am god” they’d take it as a joke, but what if i actually was? What if I’m a reincarnate or some shit they talk about in religious books or whatever?

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      As a God, you could just make them believe you.

      If my kid came out to me as the second Jesus or reincarnated Buddha, I’d ask them to prove it by doing a small miracle. Like cleaning their room or anything else that is completely impossible.

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        Fair lol, but the point was, they don’t believe in their own shit. They woudn’t know a hod if it slapped them in the face

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      I think you misread, it says “I’ve found god” (as in, “I’ve suddenly decided I both believe in god and believe I have a close personal relationship with god”), not “I am god”.

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      The fuck are you talking about?

      I have been growing up around christians, I have been actively indoctrinated by christians, I have been berated for no longer being christian.

      It’s not like many atheists in western countries need to use their imagination to put words into the mouths of christians, most can use their memory.