Unfortunately, when your options are picking the guy who supports genocide or picking the guy who absolutely will also support genocide but is worse in every other way, you have you make choices you aren’t happy with. I think it’s safe to say few people here want the genocide to continue, we are simply powerless to do anything about it.
How dumb do you have to be to not realize that there’s no choice available that isn’t genocide? There is (and was in 2020) no one on the ticket with a chance of winning that wasn’t going to support Israel.
If the choice is genocide, or genocide harder plus fascism, you’d have to have your head caved in to think that trump is the better choice. I fucking hate it, but that’s reality at the moment
Yeah listen to yourself. Calling him Genocide Joe as if that region was bastion of peace since last 2000+ years and Joe somehow came up with this idea - hey what if we do a little genocide here.
Get the fuck out of here if you can not see that this war is waged with exactly one purpose - distract the pro-democracy movements all around the world and people like you are either complicit or at least useful idiots playing in the hands of pro-war fascists.
No, Biden is the president right NOW. The election is over half a year away. This has nothing if to do with Trump…this is about an active genocide. Biden has the power to stop support; this is on him, not on the people speaking up against genocide
Edit: I mean we could have 6+ months of not supporting a state engaging in genocide no matter how the election goes, and I think that’s ok. Hell, Biden might even gain supporters if he stop aid to Israel…but that’s not brought up.
…but they are supporting and enabling a state that is currently engaging in genocide, right? Do you see how that could be confusing for folks that aren’t as agile and versed in mental gymnastics?
Edit: so this is some kind of abusive friendship that is desirable? What has Israel done for the US? Maybe the US doesn’t need to be involved in that area then…
I wouldn’t really consider the Australian Financial Review a cornerstone of geopolitical argument or respected journalism. I can see how someone who uses that as a morale compass might have different opinions than myself though.
The point of it is to be a jumping off point, I just did a search for “why the red sea is important” then skimmed through that link to see if it hit the points I wanted
Where does morality come in? Where did I say anything about my morality?
I suppose this isn’t worth getting into because you’re either part of a Russian content farm or extremely dense. In either scenario you aren’t interested in learning
And all these fucking trolls who suddenly care about the plight of the Palestinian people (really guys they do), insofar as they can use it to criticize the president of the United States, will be nowhere to be found.
Those that are actually real will crawl back into their holes, and never admit they were wrong to push people to not vote.
Presidency for sale. All you need is $175M to buy out the democracy
It’s always been, but how much is it to buy a president who doesn’t support genocide? Are any of those available?
Here comes the BoTh SiDeR. I’d take Genocide Joe over Traitor Trump any day.
Bro do you hear yourself? You are picking genocide… like wtf.
Unfortunately, when your options are picking the guy who supports genocide or picking the guy who absolutely will also support genocide but is worse in every other way, you have you make choices you aren’t happy with. I think it’s safe to say few people here want the genocide to continue, we are simply powerless to do anything about it.
How dumb do you have to be to not realize that there’s no choice available that isn’t genocide? There is (and was in 2020) no one on the ticket with a chance of winning that wasn’t going to support Israel.
If the choice is genocide, or genocide harder plus fascism, you’d have to have your head caved in to think that trump is the better choice. I fucking hate it, but that’s reality at the moment
Jesus, how are we here? No choice of a candidate that doesn’t support Israel despite them committing (currently, like right now) genocide.
What a fucking mess.
True. Now vote in the least-worse like an adult and campaign for actual decency on the next run.
Yeah listen to yourself. Calling him Genocide Joe as if that region was bastion of peace since last 2000+ years and Joe somehow came up with this idea - hey what if we do a little genocide here.
Get the fuck out of here if you can not see that this war is waged with exactly one purpose - distract the pro-democracy movements all around the world and people like you are either complicit or at least useful idiots playing in the hands of pro-war fascists.
After years of it being a meme this guy still doesn’t understand the trolly problem
If I pick “Sleepy Joe” does that mean I’m picking sleep?
See how stupid that is?
No, Biden is the president right NOW. The election is over half a year away. This has nothing if to do with Trump…this is about an active genocide. Biden has the power to stop support; this is on him, not on the people speaking up against genocide
Edit: I mean we could have 6+ months of not supporting a state engaging in genocide no matter how the election goes, and I think that’s ok. Hell, Biden might even gain supporters if he stop aid to Israel…but that’s not brought up.
Remember when someone said there are two choices here, and both perpetuated genocide but one was also worse in every other aspect?
You either pick the least-worse choice, or accept that your silence endorsed or at least accepted the worse one.
That’s the choice. Voting in a bad choice is a tough thing to do, and it’s the second-worst thing that could happen that day.
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Shut up
Are we not allowed to say the ‘G’ word here too? Or is it more upsetting that the American democracy goes to the highest bidders?
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Your view of geopolitics is infantile
Please elaborate
The US isn’t supporting Israel because they are pro-genocide
They support them because it’s their only real ally in the region
…but they are supporting and enabling a state that is currently engaging in genocide, right? Do you see how that could be confusing for folks that aren’t as agile and versed in mental gymnastics?
Edit: so this is some kind of abusive friendship that is desirable? What has Israel done for the US? Maybe the US doesn’t need to be involved in that area then…
https://www.afr.com/world/middle-east/five-maps-that-show-why-the-red-sea-is-so-important-20240115-p5ex9j
This will provide some context for you to wrap your brain around
I wouldn’t really consider the Australian Financial Review a cornerstone of geopolitical argument or respected journalism. I can see how someone who uses that as a morale compass might have different opinions than myself though.
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-australian-financial-review/
The point of it is to be a jumping off point, I just did a search for “why the red sea is important” then skimmed through that link to see if it hit the points I wanted
Where does morality come in? Where did I say anything about my morality?
I suppose this isn’t worth getting into because you’re either part of a Russian content farm or extremely dense. In either scenario you aren’t interested in learning
Please explain how trump would have been better and not worse in the Isreal situation?
He would/will be so much goddamn worse.
And all these fucking trolls who suddenly care about the plight of the Palestinian people (really guys they do), insofar as they can use it to criticize the president of the United States, will be nowhere to be found.
Those that are actually real will crawl back into their holes, and never admit they were wrong to push people to not vote.
Unfortunately no we’re all out of those. Try back in I dunno, 28 years maybe.
Go back to your cave troll.
‘Perfection’ is the enemy of ‘better’.
You’re also “both sides”-ing it.