Google warns users of these apps that their experience may deteriorate soon. They may “experience buffering issues” or see errors such as “the following content is not available on this app” when trying to watch videos.

Similar to Google Search, ads have become insufferable for many users of the service. There are too many of them, they may break the viewing experience, and they may show inappropriate content.

YouTube Premium is expensive. What weights more for some users is that its functionality is severely limited when compared to third-party apps.

The cat and mouse game continues.

For those looking to avoid ads or improve privacy, here are some options for free, open source, privacy-friendly frontends to YouTube without advertisements:

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/frontends/#youtube

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    … No. It’s $15 a month unless you sign up every single person in your family. It still boggles my mind how people have grown used to the idea of using services for free. The internet isn’t free. Everything costs money, even Lemmy. YouTube has server costs. Employee costs. And dare I say it, profit margins because they’re a business.

    You need to pay for services you use. I’m exhausted with online entitlement that it all should be free.

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      Right, cause YouTube/Google are really struggling so much that their only option is to increase prices while offering less value and making everyone’s experience worse. Maybe, and hear me out here, the massive billion dollar corporation could make less money.

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        How much do they profit off YouTube again?

        Oh wait - they don’t. They take losses from it. A business, meant for making money, is suffering a loss to provide goobers like you content and have the goobers making that content profit enough so they aren’t in poverty for choosing to make videos for a living.

        You people really throw logic out the window when you talk about shit like this. You want corporations to make less money? Go fix the fucking tax laws not bitch about average membership fees like a fuckwit.

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          As far as I know, YouTube does not lose money(feel free to correct this with a source) and even just from a logical perspective if YouTube loses google money why keep pouring so many resources into it? The correct answer imo is YouTube doesn’t lose money theyre just greedy pigs but Alphabet(the parent company behind both google and YouTube) makes 10s of billions of dollars in profit, they are not struggling to pay the bills hell even if YouTube was losing then money fucking good they shouldn’t be allowed to hoard that much wealth anyway, but feel free to keep being a corporate bootlicker.

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              YouTube has been running on a loss

              Can you look to that? They only seem to share revenue, not profit. And profit is easily manipulated. Apparently they had 29 billion USD in revenue in 2023. There was a huge growth in revenue. I don’t see why you really claim that they’re making a loss.

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                  First of all, a link to reddit isnt an acceptable source. Second if it was common knowledge that YouTube ran at a loss I would think looking up “does YouTube run at a loss” would give something more recent then 2009 I did find this from 2016, by looking for “YouTube revenue report” and according to this YouTube generated 31bn USD in 2023, unfortunately I can’t find any concrete numbers for operating costs but some estimates I read were between a couple hundred mil to a few bn, either way drops in the bucket compared to profits. Sure YouTube may have operated at a loss at first but its highly unlikely it still is.

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                    First of all, the link to Reddit had their own links but hey, fuck trying to find a source. Second, you’re looking for decade old information as if it were brand new, not really how SEO works but hey.

                    YouTube doesn’t report their expenses. We have to guess. The one time they did revealed they operate at a loss which is why in the fucking Reddit post I showed you, they were discussing said losses. But hey, not an acceptable source. Christ.

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          You people really throw logic out the window when you talk about shit like this. You want corporations to make less money? Go fix the fucking tax laws not bitch about average membership fees like a fuckwit.

          The problem is not that YT cannot make money, the problem here is that the options are that you can choose if watching video, with or without ads, for free (well, paying with your data) or pay with money and your data to watch videos with ads.

          I am not saying I have some god-like right to watch videos for free but on the other hand it seems that at YT they are trying as hard as they can to make me install adblocker to be able to use their service with minimun hassle.

          YT, like every other company, is learning that if they don’t care about customers then customers don’t care about them. They are making the false equation “one less user with adblocker == one more user on Premium|without adblocker”, which is obviously false. And they are forgetting that they have a lot of more or less direct competition.

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            YT, like every other company, is learning that if they don’t care about customers then customers don’t care about them.

            Quite a statement to say that Google (YouTube) would care about customers.

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              They care. Problem is that they care only to be able to make more money. They are simply trying to see how much money they can make before rendering the service worthless or unusable

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      It reads to me like you think these companies are entitled to a user base. They aren’t. Just because it costs money to run a service, it does not mean we have to accept the price they charge or the anti consumer practices.

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          That was a whole lot of assumptions about me. That, with the emotional language being used tells me that this interaction isn’t going anywhere useful or productive, so I’mma go ahead and step out.

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            Okay, take care psuedo intellectual. If you aren’t passionate about your position, your position is worthless.

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      You need to pay for services you use. I’m exhausted with online entitlement that it all should be free.

      So, why Youtube Premium has ads ?

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          Loads of videos have ads in there. They’re put in there by the content creators. This as YouTube doesn’t pay enough. YouTube premium doesn’t block those.

          It’s strange that you haven’t noticed those.

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            Loads of videos don’t have those either. I watched three to four car repair videos yesterday and none had sponsored segments.

            Some of my followed creators have them, but they are the minority. I’d love to see some overall stats, as my experience may not be the norm.

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            You know what’s really strange? That you think not paying YouTube would make it so they could give their creators enough to where they didn’t need to take outside sponsors. Almost like YouTube has limited or even no control over creators having third party sponsors but you still blaming them for it.

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              That you think not paying YouTube would make it so they could give their creators enough to where they didn’t need to take outside sponsors.

              YouTube has 30 billion revenue a year. You make a claim about what I think but I didn’t claim it, nor did you back up that things would change.

              Your claim is like the trickle down economic policy, which initially was meant as a joke.

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                And their expenses? 31 billion? 32 billion? You don’t fucking know do you? REVENUE IS A POINTLESS METRIC WITHOUT FUCKING EXPENSES. Holy shit you people really are so vapid.

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      The Internet is actually free. Services on it aren’t always. The issue with YouTube monetizing, for me, is 1) they are doing it retroactively and 2) they’re monetizing content made by others.