• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      But I mean, the man isn’t 100% on what I want. So obviously we have to abstain, causing the end of democracy in this shit system.

      • june@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Name a reasonable (see: electable) alternative who is

        1. better on Israel
        2. better for the economy
        3. can beat trump

        Until you can you should probably stfu because if you think it’s better to see Biden lose to trump over Israel, you’re going to be pretty damn disappointed when trump puts boots on the ground to help Israel.

      • skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        I’m tired of seeing this worn out point. What exactly would you propose he do that is:

        1. Actually possible for him to do

        2. Not going to make the situation worse

        3. Not something he is already doing

        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like what Israel is doing either but the US has painted themselves into a corner long before the Biden admin. We can’t stop supporting Israel without basically ceding control of the region to Iran, and I guarantee Iran will do shit that will make Israel look like Mr. Rogers by comparison.

        I’m not saying there’s nothing he could be doing better, but I don’t see any productive discussion from the people calling him Genocide Joe.

        And all that aside, he’s still by far the preferable alternative to Don Cheeto who would likely actually be a genocide enabler.

    • Armen12
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      8 months ago

      This country isn’t a democracy, only the wealthy get to decide what happens here, none of us have a voice thanks to Neo-Libs attacking anyone poorer than them

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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        8 months ago

        This country isn’t a democracy

        If voting doesn’t matter, you better tell all the people who are employed to shill for “Biden sucks” that they’re wasting their time and their employers’ money on influencing us, then. They could go do something else and we could get back to non-weird organic conversation with one another.

        In fact I’d whole heartedly support you on that. Want a list of who you should talk to about it?