French President Emmanuel Macron said in an interview published Saturday evening that Western ground operations in Ukraine might be necessary “at some point”, days after meeting with German and Polish leaders.

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    8 months ago

    I mean russia ruled out attacking Ukraine and we saw how that went. So why would Macron rule out anything.

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    8 months ago

    Can a NATO country put boots on the ground without triggering article 5? Even back line support would be extremely helpful. I mean, if putin pushes the nuke button there won’t be a Russia anymore.

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      8 months ago

      Article 5 is only triggered when a NATO country is attacked in their territory, so no.

      The problem is that Russia might interpret it as NATO officially entering the conflict and react accordingly.

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        8 months ago

        In which case all of NATO would be drawn into the conflict. Something Russia probably wants even less.

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          He’s probably hoping (and almost certainly working behind the scenes to make it happen ie Trump and similar) that NATO wouldn’t join in. We’re paying the price for our inaction amd policies over the past seventy five years or so.

          It’s now going to be even more expensive in money, suffering and lives.

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      8 months ago

      I agree, Putin is indeed the kind of man who would retreat, but not before killing all the civilians and burning all the food and houses, taking advantage of the French’s inablity to supply their own frontline. However, I’m not sure if that tactic is still effective in this day and age. It’s mostly effective for getting you to The Hague faster.

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      8 months ago

      Someone should remind you that Poles parked in Moscow for a year. Also, read the title - in Ukraine.

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        8 months ago

        Macron’s “débâcle”, to say it with a French word, would be funny to witness so I hope he continues down this path.