• Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Meh israel does not provide any security anymore.

    No disrespect meant, but that is a factually ignorant statement to make. We regular people don’t see allot of whats going on in the background.

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      8 months ago

      No we just see israel committing Genocide after Genocide and destabilizing the entire middle east.

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        8 months ago

        We regular people don’t see allot of whats going on in the background.

        No we just see israel committing Genocide after Genocide and destabilizing the entire middle east.

        Exactly. We don’t see all the behind the scenes stuff for security reasons.

        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think any military/country is allowed to kill civilians to get to their enemies, ever. A country doesn’t get to use an ‘our enemies are in that population zone so we can destroy the population zone to get to them’ excuse.

        But there’s a lot of history, security wise, going on between America and Israel, that is not so easily dismissed.

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          8 months ago

          There’s plenty of videos of the AIPAC lobby bribing American politicians. As for the rest, even folks like Kissinger said that israel just exists to protect israel. Not American interests in the middle east.

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            8 months ago

            Have you ever heard of the word “oil”?

            They’re the most friendly nation in that area to us, even more so than the oil producing countries, and we rely on them for security for access to that oil.

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              8 months ago

              Not at all. Saudi and Egypt are already American dogs. If anything israel turns their population against the ruling class.

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                They’re the most friendly nation in that area to us, even more so than the oil producing countries, and we rely on them for security for access to that oil.

                Saudi and Egypt are already American dogs.

                There’s a huge difference, security wise, between Israel, and Saudi Arabia / Egypt.

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                  8 months ago

                  Do you know how many American bases are in Saudi Arabia? It’s a lot more than you’d expect.

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                    Do you know how many American bases are in Saudi Arabia?

                    I do. It’s not a matter of quantity of bases. It’s a matter of a friendship relationship, versus just a working relationship, and the amount of access and cooperation that each gives.

                    Are you aware of how much work and cooperation the CIA and the Mossad do together, and the access to the region through Israeli that the CIA has, to maintain access to oil rich fields in the region? No, you don’t, and neither do I, which is my point.

                    You’re not going to hand wave away Israeli infrastructure cooperation with the US.