I made two posts on !anime@lemmy.ml, neither are visible on both instances lemmy.ml are recommending.
beehaw.org has already become a much bigger instance and they ban lemmygrad, we’re already invisible to half the people using lemmy.
It will keep getting worse, at some point you’ll need to maintain two separate instance accounts and you’ll consider dropping one of them.
@Raphael I don’t think Lemmygrad (or Hexbear, which I mostly post on) need to try and hoover up a bunch of new users from this, or worry about getting shut out. The community was getting on fine before. This will contribute some growth, which is nice, but there’s no *need* to grow aggressively. Use lemmy.ml to do propaganda/agitation, because you know they’ll never defederate. It’ll be a useful shared forum while this remains its own independent space.
If “lemmy is developed by socialists/communists/leftists” is enough for folks to steer clear of it (or move over to kbin, as I’ve seen at least one radlib insist that folks do rather than lemmy), then… “task failed successfully” in my eyes. No real loss.
Yeah, I’d rather the community grows slower, but attracts sane people than having rapid growth of liberals with addled brains.
I feel like lurkers are not considered in the growth, the sudden user influx is something that broke the camel’s back for me and made me return. But with the same influx of users there definitely was also lurkers who came over, although I guess after the blackout their numbers will dwindle the quickest, as they are more for consumption rather than propagation.
The Rust community pitching going to Kbin cracked me up.
What’s so speical about the rust community?
Lemmy is programmed in rust, so that means those turbolibs prefer something built in another programming language over something built in their favorite one.
Oh, you meant Rust as in a programming language, I was thinking about Rust as in the video game
so many wild people complaining about ‘CCP shills’. yep im on the payroll totally 💀
Damn imagine. They really should be paying us tbh, we do some good work lmao. But yeah, to be serious, it always seems wild that China would actively be paying people to do this shit, like have they considered that we actually are just ideologically kind of aligned with the CPC? Much more easy conclusion to come to imo, Occam’s Razor and all that.
When one’s own income depends on closing one’s eyes to capitalist brutality, it becomes easier to assume that one’s ideological enemies are doing the same thing: ignoring atrocities for a pay cheque.
So as always it is projection. Is there anything that isn’t with libs?
Wow, that was actually kind of profound to me. Thanks for that insight comrade.
I don’t expect the radlibs that are joining beehaw.org to stay much longer after the Reddit blackout ends, the mentality they have of trying to bully out X political faction they don’t like on lemmy.ml isn’t healthy to building and maintaining any community. This time it’s “tankies”, next month it might be liberals who only buy 99% of the CIA narrative on [insert issue of the month here] instead of 100%.
Look at it positively comrades, growing our own community here only has benefits and hexbear.net might federate with us soon!
I hope the libs don’t leave before Hexbear federates. I need to see the dunking.
20,000 of us incoming (more like 1000 very active and another 1000 light users/lurkers)
I heard Hexbear is only going to federate with Lemmygrad. I’m a noob when it comes to this stuff - do you know if that means individual Hexbear users will still be able to post on other instances, and it just won’t automatically show up on the all page for Hexbear users?
If two instances aren’t federated, users of each can’t interact with eachother. As to Hexbear’s federation plans, from a bit of lurking it seems which instances they will federate with - if they do so at all - is up in the air.
If two instances aren’t federated, users of each can’t interact with eachother.
Noooo!!!
I’m assumimg here that one instance is blocking the other. If neither instances are blocking eachother but they’re not federated yet either, users can federate by subscribing to community on the other instance.
@iridaniotter Hopefully we (Hexbear) also federate with lemmy.ml. The decision isn’t made yet.
Wait a second, beehaw is blocking instances because of politics? I don’t like how this sounds.
They call it “trolling” or “human rights abuse denial” if you disagree with the american narrative. You’re not expressing an opinion, you’re outright lying, because the USA media said so.
Liberal logic. Distinguishing their ideology based on fair democracy and the “fight for your right to express yourself freely”…
…except when your expression challenges the status quo power structure or what constitutes fair democracy. You know like… every ‘totalitarian’ ideology?
But Radio Free Europe, and Radio Free Asia are the epitome of journalistic integrity! So good that almost all of US media parrots what they say! Are you telling me that US media would use bad sources for their news stories? That’s crazy talk! (/s just in case)
As a free software enthusiast, I appreciate anything with “Free” in the title, unless it contains “trial” or any word related to journalism or politics.
The other day Mexico moved to privatize some oil companies, american press immediately pushed some articles saying “Liberal democracy is under attack in Mexico”, the title was “The fascist next door”.
I’m not even kidding, too lazy to look it up though.
Don’t you know true freedom is the freedom to poison the atmosphere with free CO2? And put free microplastics into every environment on earth? If I’m not free to pollute anything and everything I might as well be in Nazi Germany
We have plenty of stories if your interested, but suffice it to say the Bee kind shitck seems to be little but hollow words
They tried to get lemmy.ml to defederate from us when they were created because we kept demolishing them in debates.
They defederated almost from day 1, their admin claiming that we were taking up too much of their disk space because we were so active, and it turned out they just didn’t delete some log files.
Nobody from lemmygrad has ever had a nice interaction with beehaw, despite that it’s literally in their rules to be nice etc.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220310045805/https://beehaw.org/
See the “sealioning” rule. It might be useful ammo.
Interesting that they took out all the rules in the sidebar.
I would also caution you against nasty vote manipulators who always strive to manufacture conflict between people, like it is happening to you. I have many internet enemies who like to do this.
Yeah, some Lemmy libs don’t like what we have to say but instead of using their words they just hide behind the anonymous downvote button. I know that my comrades here would not downvote me.
Actually downvotes are not anonymous, they are federated and as such can’t be anonymised, it’s possible to know who downvotes if we went into the database.
Look on the bright side: for most of the history of the Internet socialist states had to block out the flood of lib content to keep it from poisoning public discourse.
Now the tide is turning, and liberals are blocking communists out. On the English-speaking internet we’re still a minority, but they’re scared that if they let us freely compete in their marketplace of ideas, we’d be punching well above our size. Truth is a powerful ally, and their suppression of it is failing.
I needed to read this, thank you.
Brazilian communists online repeat a mantra along the lines “it looks like it’s growing”, to reference the libs response and fear against Marxist solid ideas.
It looks like it’s growing, comrade.
I’m a brazilian communist and I’ve never heard that
One of us is clearly not a real communist, or a real brazilian. 🎉
Qualé, nem todo mundo é obrigado a conhecer a Soberana TV
Eu quis dizer o contrário na real, enquanto fazia piada com a ambiguidade.
Eu q sou “formado” na Internet e q não li muita coisa poderia ser taxado de comunista de internets e não um comunista de verdade.
Ahhh, me desculpe, não tinha pegado o sarcasmo!
Parece que cresce!
This is exactly why I have an account on lemmy.ml. Lemmygrad is my safe space to come back to when I am sick of seeing braindead lib takes.
That’s been my approach as well. I also find it’s nice be able to post to lemmy.ml from Lemmygrad and not have all the libs from paces like beehaw descend to downvote. So it’s sort of a feature when you think about it. :)
I also find it’s nice be able to post to lemmy.ml from Lemmygrad and not have all the libs from paces like beehaw descend to downvote
We can more effectively spread agitprop to users from other instances without having them brigade/downvote bomb our comments, very well noted!
👍
Wait this is actually hilarious. If Lemmy gets really big and all the liberal instances de-federate from us we can convert more people to marxism and they’ll have no clue what’s happening. They’re basically doing the “if I can’t see you, you can’t see me” thing that kids do.
Holy hell I hope Hexbear federates with Lemmy.
Lol haven’t thought of it that way
It didn’t used to be so liberal though right? It seems to me with the flood of people from reddit it flipped overnight into almost the exact same liberal groupthink as reddit had.
why didn’t lemmy staff try to control the liberalification of lemmy? to get more people to use lemmy?
My conjecture based on disagreements I’ve had with them, their goal is to draw in libs so that the marxists actually have people to educate. Without them it kinda became an echo chamber.
lmao how are marxists going to educate them if they’re people are gonna block marxist instances and ban (or outright block) marxist users for being “tankies”?
most already go “LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” if you as much as try to debunk them on lies about the russo-ukrainian war, about china, about dprk anyway; and find marxist solutions to be “too radical”.
The ones who block or ban us probably aren’t reachable. We can concentrate on constructive discussions with the ones who are interested in evidence.
We have some REAL putin puppets in here, especially on GenZDong.
I mean, actual putin puppets, people who would defend him no matter what he did.
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I figure there’s only so much that can be done when you have a massive flood of users joining at the same time. Between dev work and administrating lemmy.ml, dessalines and nutomic must be swamped.
dessalines and nutomic aren’t the only admins of lemmy.ml though?
I’m kinda doubtful about them. Agreeable says he’s ML, but World News where he is also a mod is notorious for not banning even outright fake NATO propaganda and shills and not just now but even before. Wazowski is inactive and seems to be radlib. K_o_t seems to be some kind of vague green supporting Ukraine, no idea who Maya even is, Arthur Besse idk but posted some ukronazi prop before.
Still I’d assume the sheer amount of new users is too overwhelming
at some point you’ll need to maintain two separate instance accounts and you’ll consider dropping one of them.
Not if you have no plans to ever visiting anything outside lemmygrad.
To be honest, I can understand, Lemmy being pro-communist. Shouldn’t promote to new users, instances that don’t federate with us, on the other hand let the liberals go there and leave us alone …
is lemmy.ml down
The servers of lemmy.ml (along with a few of the other large instances) are taking a beating from the massive influx of redditors.
Gonna be honest - it’s currently better to just have an account on lemmy.ml. The reddit format of this site plus the relatively small userbase makes instance blocklists a major headache for communists. Currently, if you want to follow the news on lemmy and have conversation about it, you can’t because all the liberal instances block their users from seeing us.
I imagine that in the future, there will be a large confederation of liberal instances that will be highly reddit-like and ban communists. Then there will also be a smaller confederation of communist instances. There will also be lemmy.ml with the issues you mention… or maybe the liberals will ban that one too since they refuse to block lemmygrad.
This is what I’ve always done, but lately I noticed a large uptick in braindead liberal comments. I even did my first user block after about a year and a half. It’s so much nicer to come to lemmygrad.ml though and not have to see all the ass-backwards takes on everything.
I’m very confused about a lot of the comments not appearing stuff. Not sure how much of it is bugs and how much is moderation
Instances banning other instances, regardless of community.
I posted on an anime community but since I’m from lemmygrad, I’m invisible to instances that ban lemmygrad.
Even though my posts were apolitical.
