• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        9 months ago

        I meant Russia.

        Nobody’s keeping them there but them. Blame whatever boogieman you like - it’s their soldiers in someone else’s borders.

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          9 months ago

          No blame here! I’m just stating a fact that the United States doesn’t want this war to ever end. It has a material interest in keeping Russia bogged down as long as possible. This is true regardless of whether you blame Russia or not.

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              9 months ago

              I understand who controls Ukraine’s army and government and who tells them when they’re allowed to negotiate.

              I’m not talking about blame. I thought I made that clear.

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                9 months ago

                What you’re doing is blame whether you call it that or not.

                There is nothing to negotiate. Russia invaded and can fuck off at any time. It is entirely up to them.

                And nobody told Ukraine not to negotiate. Russia asked America. America is saying: ask Ukraine.

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                  9 months ago

                  If you refuse to negotiate then you get the obvious result. Stop being idealistic. The result of not negotiating a s the war continues. Period.

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                    9 months ago

                    Pounding the table doesn’t make nonsense worthwhile.

                    Russia alone can end this war. The US cannot continue it, if they just leave. Nobody forced them to be there. Nobody is keeping them there. It is their war of aggression, for territory. Negotiating for anything besides “fuck off already” is pointless.

                    Stop blaming anyone else.

                    Stop pretending ‘you didn’t do diplomacy about our invasion, so the invasion marches on’ is anything but blame.