• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    9 months ago

    When we said we wanted a dark and gritty Star Trek, we didn’t mean literally dark and full of gravel.

    Actually… I don’t think anyone even said they wanted a dark and gritty Star Trek. At least, not one set outside of the “evil” universe.

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      9 months ago

      I would love a “dark” story based around smuggling during the dominion war. I always envisioned an entire ship’s interior as a holodeck that would change appearances when they were boarded by different factions.

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      9 months ago

      I feel like those producers, writers, and directors heard a lot of “Deep Space Nine is the best Trek because it wasn’t afraid to be dark and portray violence and loss on a galactic scale.” and they took all the wrong lessons from it.

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      9 months ago

      Who wanted grimderp Star Trek? Star Trek at its core is Optimistic. You want grimderp, go read WH40K or listen to Emo rock.

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        9 months ago

        Oh, woe upon those who wish to see their favorite series grow and evolve! What do we say to those who want modern story telling and deep characterization? No! Give me my milquetoast Trek! I don’t want to feel things!

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          I never had a problem feeling things with the episodic series. Nor was there a lack of deeper character development (outside of a few characters; which still happens in serialized content anyway) or story-telling. It just didn’t take an entire season to tell a single (or even a B story along with the main plot), coherent story. Nor did it have such a bleak and pessimistic outlook. I want to feel good after an episode; not be reminded of reality. If I wanted to embrace reality, I wouldn’t be watching Star Trek.

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          9 months ago

          You can’t feel things without graphic violence and war based plots? Or is it the big explosions that give you feels?

          Sorry philosophical Trek was over your head. Enjoy your boom booms.

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            Grimdark doesn’t mean ultraviolence or meaningless violence. Some of the greatest episodes of TNG are “grimdark”, like Yersterday’s Enterprise, Best of Both Worlds, and Chain of Command. They don’t all have to be hopeful or optimistic. Gripping stories often involve conflict and heavy themes.

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      The one that’s meant for kids feels like clone wars, just gritty enough but still trek.

      You know, the one not on the world’s shittiest streaming app that crashes every episode and forces commercials when you paid not to see any.

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          9 months ago

          Netflix scopped them up and will stream the completed season 2. Whether or not they give it a 3rd is up to them and we know their track record of shows that make it past 2.

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    9 months ago

    To be fair, when they darkened the lighting for Generations it looked way better than the flat bright of the show, so I can’t hate the dimmer lighting in the modern shows. I always use dark mode on everything so it’s just my preference.

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      9 months ago

      Absolutely. I get that it’s often over-used for dramatic emphasis, but it’s definitely easier on the eyes.

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      There are limits though…

      Like this is the gang led by the Vulcan from Picard. I get that it’s night time, but use a little creative license.

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          Honestly, it’s a great scene and the idea of a Vulcan gangster that still adheres to logic is a great one, but it was soooo dark.

          Here’s Worf in the same scene-

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        Oh for sure. It can be done correctly or badly. But the flat bright palette of 90s Trek is not necessarily the greatest thing in the world either, and I say that as someone who grew up on TNG and whose favorite series is DS9.

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    9 months ago

    NU-TREK sounds like a low calorie granola bar advertised to hikers

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    9 months ago

    Voyager wins, the bridge is nice and bright until shit goes down, then it gets dimmer and you hear the red alert sound.

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      9 months ago

      This is voyagers second win, after mopping the floor with the competition for the coveted “most annoying comic relief character” prize

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    9 months ago

    Partly they just want to be “dark” but I imagine it’s also for benefit of people who just leave their TV at the super-bright default settings designed to look good in the brightly lit stores that sell them, like some kind of video version of the loudness wars.

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    9 months ago

    Damn Federation guidelines on high-efficiency lighting