• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s still fraud. He’s selling something under false pretenses. He claims these work when they do not.

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      10 months ago

      I guess that’s true. But if I sold you a license to perform spells and incantations, and you obviously never successfully do, is that fraud?

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        10 months ago

        I would say it depends on the presentation and point. Are you a board game store selling it as a fun thing? A white elephant gift store? A cute gift shop in Salem? Yea, sell it all day.

        A horoscope reader upselling it to brainwashed idiots, literally trying to convince them it works? … Yea, that’s fraud. Might not be fraud you could get them found guilty of, since so many laws require a “reasonable person” to fall for it, but we all know there aren’t actually that many “reasonable” people…

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        10 months ago

        Is he advertising it as a fantasy document? That’s the whole point of fraud: fair representation.

        If someone says, “Hey, you wanna’ by my last shit for $10,000!?!” and someone takes them up on it thinking there’s no way someone would ACTUALLY sell their shit for 10k… they’re totally fine selling, and that buyer is a moron with little legal recourse.

        However, if someone tells you they’re selling petrified dino turds and gives you a fresh human shit… yea, that’s fraud, even though both are selling shit.

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          Idk how this particular document is being sold, but the world government passport isn’t being sold as a fantasy document, that’s just how it is cited by the International Civil Aviation Organization