one way I know the lemmy population is old is how frequently we complain about the youths these days. we’ve become our parents, and their parents before them, moaning about how no one has good taste anymore
Idk, man. I started feeling this way when I was ~14, at least about the music I heard on the radio. I rarely got any say over what we listened to in my parent’s cars so I’d constantly be praying that the next song wouldn’t be something that had come out recently
it’s one thing to not like new music, i think that’s normal, people discover the music they like fairly early on and usually get kinda stuck in it. but all the people saying new music is objectively garbage and people just have garbage taste now? yea they got that boomer mentality where the stuff they like from their youth is the golden age, everything else is inferior, and their opinions are facts
I dig new music and follow a bunch of artists who are releasing things right now. Over the last few years I’ve been introduced to entirely new genres and have fallen in love with them. This is the best time ever to be into music, there’s unprecedented variety and even very niche things can grow a strong community. Suffice it to say I do not believe that my personal taste has been cemented
But at the same time imo the typical pop music you hear in public has genuinely been getting worse. Some stuff is okay but a lot of it feels inauthentic. Just my 2c, I wouldn’t argue the point in objective terms
I’m in the exact same boat re: your first paragraph and I used to think the same re: your second paragraph, then I looked up the top charts from the 90s and yeah… it was always bad lol.
I frequently burn myself out on music so I listen to a lot of new stuff, mainly hip hop and all sorts of electronic. I’ve just been a top 50 chart hater for years
I want new music. I love new music. My problem is that it’s mostly all been done and everything sounds the fucking same. Even the vast majority of bands from my youth, when they put out a new album or song, it’s just the same old thing. And that’s what sucks— I don’t need 20 albums that all sound the same. That being said, sometimes new stuff really does suck. Perfect example: mumble rap. I love some good rap of varying sub-genres, but mumble rap is just [mumbles something unintelligible]. As a musician, I approach new stuff fairly objectively and try to give it a fair chance. That doesn’t mean it’s objectively good. It doesn’t mean that just because it’s old, it’s good, either. There is plenty of old music that sucks. There will always be music that sucks. That’s just how it is. Elder Millennial, BTW, just for the record.
A Sound Of Thunder aren’t doing anything that unique musically, but a few of their songs do this really cool thing of blending history and myth and rewriting them into something new. For example they took Herodotus’ account of Tomyris and transformed it into a feminist story. They also made a cover of the Catalonian national anthem that got played at the protests a few years ago.
You’ve probably heard of Amaranthe because they’re really popular, but they still did something totally new by mixing pop and metal with three front singers.
Van Canto also revolutionised Acapella by putting their voices through guitar amps to sing metal.
Falconer’s gimmick of doing bardic tales in metal isn’t that novel, but it’s beautifully executed.
I definitely want to check out Van Canto. Your description of A Sound of Thunder made me think of how Skynd does songs about real murders/serial killers. Check 'em out if you haven’t already. Great recommends, but I want something completely new. Not to sound like one of the best episodes of the Mighty Boosh, but I’m looking for the new sound. lol
Thomas Bergersen once put synths and trumpets in the same song when he made Dragon Rider, but that was only for one song because he doesn’t believe in genre.
I’m either still young or just a contrarian but so far I’ve successfully managed to avoid becoming this person. I constantly look for new stuff to experience and I still haven’t felt like things have peaked. As in, no, I don’t think music nowadays sucks, are you insane? There’s so much cool stuff being made all the time that my only complaint is that don’t have enough time to experience it all.
yea im in the sweet spot too lol, 30 and still regularly discovering new music i like. i hope we both maintain this positivity as we age, i think it’s a much nicer way to wade through life. even if i reach a point where i stop liking new music, i hope i can still see the value in it for others, i never want to be that old grump
Maybe top 50 (back in my day it was top 40 dadgummit) is blah currently, idk. But there’s definitely lots and lots and lots of great music out there to discover.
I went to a TOOL concert last weekend and it really put into perspective how old my taste in music is lol. It seemed like 90% of the people there were like 30-40.
What’s weird is that I don’t even know how people know what the “kids these days” are into. Like where are they getting that information? Maybe I’m just divorced from the zeitgeist, but I dunno how people ever think to look at “oh this song has 4 billion listens” or whatever. I guess what I’m saying is, is the perception of “the kids” a real thing, or is it just kind of this weird fake thing people make up so they can get mad at their own hallucinations?
one way I know the lemmy population is old is how frequently we complain about the youths these days. we’ve become our parents, and their parents before them, moaning about how no one has good taste anymore
The kids suck, but the olds suck even harder. Moral of the story, “I don’t like people”.
Years of experience, thank you very much.
Idk, man. I started feeling this way when I was ~14, at least about the music I heard on the radio. I rarely got any say over what we listened to in my parent’s cars so I’d constantly be praying that the next song wouldn’t be something that had come out recently
it’s one thing to not like new music, i think that’s normal, people discover the music they like fairly early on and usually get kinda stuck in it. but all the people saying new music is objectively garbage and people just have garbage taste now? yea they got that boomer mentality where the stuff they like from their youth is the golden age, everything else is inferior, and their opinions are facts
I dig new music and follow a bunch of artists who are releasing things right now. Over the last few years I’ve been introduced to entirely new genres and have fallen in love with them. This is the best time ever to be into music, there’s unprecedented variety and even very niche things can grow a strong community. Suffice it to say I do not believe that my personal taste has been cemented
But at the same time imo the typical pop music you hear in public has genuinely been getting worse. Some stuff is okay but a lot of it feels inauthentic. Just my 2c, I wouldn’t argue the point in objective terms
I’m in the exact same boat re: your first paragraph and I used to think the same re: your second paragraph, then I looked up the top charts from the 90s and yeah… it was always bad lol.
I frequently burn myself out on music so I listen to a lot of new stuff, mainly hip hop and all sorts of electronic. I’ve just been a top 50 chart hater for years
Are we the same person??
I want new music. I love new music. My problem is that it’s mostly all been done and everything sounds the fucking same. Even the vast majority of bands from my youth, when they put out a new album or song, it’s just the same old thing. And that’s what sucks— I don’t need 20 albums that all sound the same. That being said, sometimes new stuff really does suck. Perfect example: mumble rap. I love some good rap of varying sub-genres, but mumble rap is just [mumbles something unintelligible]. As a musician, I approach new stuff fairly objectively and try to give it a fair chance. That doesn’t mean it’s objectively good. It doesn’t mean that just because it’s old, it’s good, either. There is plenty of old music that sucks. There will always be music that sucks. That’s just how it is. Elder Millennial, BTW, just for the record.
Bloodywood is doing something new
HOLY FUCK YEAH! Thanks for this. Reminds me a lot of Skindred, but Indian instead of Reggae-fuzed. Cheers!
A Sound Of Thunder aren’t doing anything that unique musically, but a few of their songs do this really cool thing of blending history and myth and rewriting them into something new. For example they took Herodotus’ account of Tomyris and transformed it into a feminist story. They also made a cover of the Catalonian national anthem that got played at the protests a few years ago.
You’ve probably heard of Amaranthe because they’re really popular, but they still did something totally new by mixing pop and metal with three front singers.
Van Canto also revolutionised Acapella by putting their voices through guitar amps to sing metal.
Falconer’s gimmick of doing bardic tales in metal isn’t that novel, but it’s beautifully executed.
I definitely want to check out Van Canto. Your description of A Sound of Thunder made me think of how Skynd does songs about real murders/serial killers. Check 'em out if you haven’t already. Great recommends, but I want something completely new. Not to sound like one of the best episodes of the Mighty Boosh, but I’m looking for the new sound. lol
Thomas Bergersen once put synths and trumpets in the same song when he made Dragon Rider, but that was only for one song because he doesn’t believe in genre.
Nah. I like new (but most of it is trash) but some oldies are timeless.
Top pop has always been trash.
Occasionally there are earworms like Toxic, Shape of You, or Padam Padam but it’s mostly committee produced garbage.
I mostly listen to metal but gotta admit that Toxic is a fucking banger
https://youtu.be/rMy0KPz8Vvo
I’m either still young or just a contrarian but so far I’ve successfully managed to avoid becoming this person. I constantly look for new stuff to experience and I still haven’t felt like things have peaked. As in, no, I don’t think music nowadays sucks, are you insane? There’s so much cool stuff being made all the time that my only complaint is that don’t have enough time to experience it all.
yea im in the sweet spot too lol, 30 and still regularly discovering new music i like. i hope we both maintain this positivity as we age, i think it’s a much nicer way to wade through life. even if i reach a point where i stop liking new music, i hope i can still see the value in it for others, i never want to be that old grump
I don’t think the complaint here is about the modern music, more about how it’s being produced and curated.
Maybe top 50 (back in my day it was top 40 dadgummit) is blah currently, idk. But there’s definitely lots and lots and lots of great music out there to discover.
I’m one of those youths and I hate most of the music my peers listen to.
I went to a TOOL concert last weekend and it really put into perspective how old my taste in music is lol. It seemed like 90% of the people there were like 30-40.
For context, I’m 19.
What’s weird is that I don’t even know how people know what the “kids these days” are into. Like where are they getting that information? Maybe I’m just divorced from the zeitgeist, but I dunno how people ever think to look at “oh this song has 4 billion listens” or whatever. I guess what I’m saying is, is the perception of “the kids” a real thing, or is it just kind of this weird fake thing people make up so they can get mad at their own hallucinations?