Jokes on my employer, I have been effectively working less than 3 days a week in active hours actually doing something productive beyond meetings and forced chit chat for years.
Most employers in my experience care far more about the appearance of working than they do actually working. Once you realize this it is amazing how little actual work you need to do to make them happy.
Almost as if upper management and middle management aren’t actually good leaders. Almost as if everything they do is not only complete bullshit but also actively harms the company by causing inefficiencies directly.
They should get better training then. Most managers and leadership actually get virtually zero genuine management training at all. This is what I teach and it blows my mind people just totally wing a job like that.
I’m a workforce planning BP and it’s hard to implement obvious improvements to the workforce, even with solid data backing you. There is often one or two aithorative figures that are too scared to “gamble” on trialing something as, despite the data, it doesn’t sit right with them.
So the turnover rates, costs, and absenteeism stay higher while employee satisfaction, efficient capacity, and revenue stay lower.
Yeah, the blue collar workers who have to pick up your slack are very well aware of your useless position. Bragging about it like this is frankly disgusting.
hahaha, what blue collar workers do you imagine are picking up the slack from my sysadmin position of managing servers? Trying to white night for a third party like this is frankly pathetic. I’m sure they appreciate your service oh Nobel savior of their pride.
The blue collar workers aren’t “picking up the slack” of a sysadmin who manages the warehouse system, are they? no, they don’t have the desire or skills to manage a server and that’s fine. But you cannot pick up slack for people who do uniquely different work?
Wait, do you think I am saying I just straight up do not do my job of keeping those systems running, healthy, and accessible for those that need those services? Do you think that is what everyone is saying with these types of discussions? If you do, then you my friend need to learn about this thing called sarcasm. It is almost the default tone on the internet.
The fact that you may think any of what I said means I am neglecting the core functions of my job says a lot about how much you know about this subject, and the modern working office compared to how much you think you know.
What I am saying, that you seem to not be able to grasp for whatever reason, is that the actual core functions of a lot jobs do not take 40-60 hours to do competently. There is an enormous amount of time wasted in the modern “office setting workplace” on things that serve no purpose other than to make the boss look like they are adding value. If you and the blue collar folks are getting mad at the white collar office worker for that then you have been tricked into supporting positions that work against your own interests.
For example using your warehouse management system:
If part of my job is insuring the health an availability of an auto scaling cluster of EC2 instances or ECS containers , some Lamda functions, a DB cluster, etc (or the GCP/Azure equivalents) so the warehouse management system is up and running 24/7, and I can get that done in ~5 hours a week, including monitoring, maintenance and planning for upgrades and whatnot what value is spending say 2 additional hours a week in a team meeting to give my boss a status update on that adding for me, the warehouse workers, etc? He gets the project update messages on work completed as it is , but he still wants to hear the same thing in a meeting anyway. Multiply that by a bunch of other systems and services for things that are not the warehouse management system and you can get a picture of how the bosses meetings are wasting hours a week to give him information he is already getting in written for anyway.
If you are coming to these kinds of discussions with the assumption that time spent “on the clock” directly relates to amount of valuable work done across the board then you are sadly mistaken.
Jokes on my employer, I have been effectively working less than 3 days a week in active hours actually doing something productive beyond meetings and forced chit chat for years.
Most employers in my experience care far more about the appearance of working than they do actually working. Once you realize this it is amazing how little actual work you need to do to make them happy.
Almost as if upper management and middle management aren’t actually good leaders. Almost as if everything they do is not only complete bullshit but also actively harms the company by causing inefficiencies directly.
They should get better training then. Most managers and leadership actually get virtually zero genuine management training at all. This is what I teach and it blows my mind people just totally wing a job like that.
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I need to look that up what is the Peter principle?
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I’m a workforce planning BP and it’s hard to implement obvious improvements to the workforce, even with solid data backing you. There is often one or two aithorative figures that are too scared to “gamble” on trialing something as, despite the data, it doesn’t sit right with them.
So the turnover rates, costs, and absenteeism stay higher while employee satisfaction, efficient capacity, and revenue stay lower.
Those are rookie numbers. Gotta get on Peter Gibbons’ level of doing fifteen minutes of real, actual work every week
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Yeah, the blue collar workers who have to pick up your slack are very well aware of your useless position. Bragging about it like this is frankly disgusting.
hahaha, what blue collar workers do you imagine are picking up the slack from my sysadmin position of managing servers? Trying to white night for a third party like this is frankly pathetic. I’m sure they appreciate your service oh Nobel savior of their pride.
The fact you can’t even imagine how a server could host something like a warehouse management system says a lot.
The blue collar workers aren’t “picking up the slack” of a sysadmin who manages the warehouse system, are they? no, they don’t have the desire or skills to manage a server and that’s fine. But you cannot pick up slack for people who do uniquely different work?
Wait, do you think I am saying I just straight up do not do my job of keeping those systems running, healthy, and accessible for those that need those services? Do you think that is what everyone is saying with these types of discussions? If you do, then you my friend need to learn about this thing called sarcasm. It is almost the default tone on the internet.
The fact that you may think any of what I said means I am neglecting the core functions of my job says a lot about how much you know about this subject, and the modern working office compared to how much you think you know.
What I am saying, that you seem to not be able to grasp for whatever reason, is that the actual core functions of a lot jobs do not take 40-60 hours to do competently. There is an enormous amount of time wasted in the modern “office setting workplace” on things that serve no purpose other than to make the boss look like they are adding value. If you and the blue collar folks are getting mad at the white collar office worker for that then you have been tricked into supporting positions that work against your own interests.
For example using your warehouse management system: If part of my job is insuring the health an availability of an auto scaling cluster of EC2 instances or ECS containers , some Lamda functions, a DB cluster, etc (or the GCP/Azure equivalents) so the warehouse management system is up and running 24/7, and I can get that done in ~5 hours a week, including monitoring, maintenance and planning for upgrades and whatnot what value is spending say 2 additional hours a week in a team meeting to give my boss a status update on that adding for me, the warehouse workers, etc? He gets the project update messages on work completed as it is , but he still wants to hear the same thing in a meeting anyway. Multiply that by a bunch of other systems and services for things that are not the warehouse management system and you can get a picture of how the bosses meetings are wasting hours a week to give him information he is already getting in written for anyway.
If you are coming to these kinds of discussions with the assumption that time spent “on the clock” directly relates to amount of valuable work done across the board then you are sadly mistaken.