Martin Luther King Jr. and Frederick Douglass were both dedicated to bringing about an America that was colorblind, Andre Archie says, but their work is being undermined.

Obviously, this is the height of foolishness, in my opinion.

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    Now I wanted to say something about the fact that we have lived over these last two or three summers with agony and we have seen our cities going up in flames. And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non­-violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt. And I feel that we must always work with an effective, powerful weapon and method that brings about tangible results. But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.

    https://www.gphistorical.org/mlk/mlkspeech/

    I always find it funny when conservatives think that Martin Luther King was on their side.

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      I always find it funny when conservatives think that Martin Luther King was on their side.

      Dr. King very much was a conservative. Baffled you would think otherwise. He was a preacher in the South in the 1960s. If you had read any of his writings, he was very much a conservative man.

      Now would he be on the side of the Republican party? Most likely not. His father was a proud Republican but King avoided association with any party. He wanted the ability to call out both sides.

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            He was a socialist, and anti capitalist. Which is antithetical to conservativism, which licks the boot of capitalism.

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              He was not an anti-capitalist. lol. He clearly says he’s a social democracy. That’s a system based on capitalism that has a strong safety social net. Sweden is an example of a social democracy. It’s a capitalism.

              And no once again you’re rambling about things you don’t understand. Conservatism and capitalism are different things. One is a political belief system and the other is an economic system.

              You sound so silly when you talk about licking boots. It’s some weird fetish you commies have.

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                He was not an anti-capitalist. lol.

                “The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.”

                Conservatism and capitalism are different things. One is a political belief system and the other is an economic system.

                I am aware. However you don’t seem aware that conservatism specifies that capitalism is the only valid economic system.

                You sound so silly when you talk

                No sillier than you, someone who can’t even read basic quotes and understand their meaning.

                A guy straight up calls capitalism evil and you say they aren’t anti capitalist.

                It’s some weird fetish you commies have

                I’m not a communist.

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                  “The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.”

                  Yet he says he supports capitalism. You know MLK wasn’t an economist, right? Just like you, he didn’t really understand what he was advocating for.

                  I am aware. However you don’t seem aware that conservatism specifies that capitalism is the only valid economic system.

                  Really you have a cite for that? News to me.

                  No sillier than you, someone who can’t even read basic quotes and understand their meaning.

                  Adults understand the context. I get you like everything in sound bites but it ignores the true intent of the speaker. MLK was advocating for a more just society. He wasn’t asking to end capitalism, but to make sure everyone was enjoying the American dream. More specifically he was advocating for black people who didn’t have the economic advantages of white people at the time. Dr. King was a religious man but he was not an economist. What he is describing is something more akin to Sweden which actually ranks more capitalist than America.

                  A guy straight up calls capitalism evil and you say they aren’t anti capitalist. Then right below that he talks about supporting it. This is why you don’t take economic advice from a preacher.

                  I’m not a communist. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

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                    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

                    Funny how that doesn’t apply to MLK but somehow does apply to me.

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      I get that it’s beyond your mental capability, but people are are nuanced, and can be respected for good ideas in spite of also having other, bad ideas

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        PrincessEli: Warning for violation of rule #1 and #3.

        Don’t automatically assume something is beyond someone’s mental capability, and provide reasons for your disagreement.

        (I’m gonna have to start putting names in my warning so I know how I’ve warned previously…)

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          I’m not assuming. I’m providing my opinion based on his continued participation here, where he has demonstrated exceptionally poor ability to discern nuanced situations