Inspired by the debate between Matt Dillahunty and Jordan Peterson.

  • A_Very_Big_FanOPM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Have you ever heard a Christian, Muslim, or a Jew talk about God and morality? They all say this.

    I could link a litany of other debates to showcase this if you’d like, but we both have equal access to Google.

    • redballooon
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Jews… I doubt it. I don’t talk to Muslims Al that often, so, no.

      As for Christians, there is the sentiment, but mostly when introducing God towards children. When adults talk, it’s much toned down. It’s not the big talking point.

      And then of course there are plenty of Gods that never were associated with benevolence. Look into the Hindu or Roman pantheon for examples.

      • A_Very_Big_FanOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        To be fair, I’ve never heard a Jew argue that God is benevolent, but I’m fairly certain that’s only because there are so few Jews in the debate scene.

        But I’ve never heard a Muslim or Christian suggest that God is not good or not benevolent. That kind of sentiment would contradict the Bible (and presumably the Quran for as adamant as they are about it). Here are the most explicit examples I could find:

        (Romans 8:28):

        “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.”

        (Nahum 1:7):

        “The Lord is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him, …”

        (Psalm 100:5):

        “For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations.”

        But aside from the word of the Bible, this is what every Christian I’ve ever met has told me. For many of them, like William Lane Craig, it’s one of their biggest arguments in favor of their faith. When I hear Christians pray 9 times out of 10 the vast majority of it is proclaiming and thanking God for his goodness. A lot of them, like Steve Harvey, will even claim it isn’t possible to for us to be good without God.

        What Christians have you spoken to who wouldn’t enthusiastically claim that God is good? Can you link me any examples?