• KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml
    634·
    1 year ago

    Capitalism’s ability to provide moral and ideological cover for the self-commodification of every aspect of humanity is incredible. 100 years ago you’d have to force women to do this, today some are not just willing to do it, but see it as a noble cause and contribution for the war machine of empire.

    • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
      391·
      1 year ago

      I love how of all the things she could do to provide support for an army, she skipped over cooking and first aid and her brain went straight to being a prostitute

      • KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml
        252·
        1 year ago

        The absolute effect of liberalism on women’s perception of themselves and their role in the world

        • WithoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml
          612·
          1 year ago

          This entire thread smacks of weirdly sexist brainworms to me

          I’m not even talking about this because I’m believe in that “feminism is only about individual choice!” bs, but because it’s weird to imply that wanting to be a prostitute instead of a medic or a cook is some kind of mental degradation, and all three of those things being assumed as the only roles a woman would play in a war is just gross

          • Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml
            223·
            1 year ago

            but because it’s weird to imply that wanting to be a prostitute instead of a medic or a cook is some kind of mental degradation

            …Is it? I do not think it is a stretch to say that the despersonalization of a human being into a sexual object is indeed pretty degrading.

            and all three of those things being assumed as the only roles a woman would play in a war is just gross

            Helping the wounded and the starved are the main tasks that volunteering organizations play in any warzone, be it either men or women. It is the kind of thing one volunteers for unless they are in the very small minority of people who are either dense enough or who have enough of a death wish to go there to fight and get blown up by an Iskander missile (RIP Reddit battalion).

            • WithoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml
              313·
              1 year ago

              …Is it? I do not think it is a stretch to say that the despersonalization of a human being into a sexual object is indeed pretty degrading.

              I mean, yeah, wanting to have sex is a pretty normal desire for a lot of people, so it’s not a surprise that some people would choose to do so professionally. There are definitely systemic issues at play that coerce people into becoming prostitutes, which makes the industry very bad altogether, but if removed from that context it’s pretty reasonable (and neither of the comments in the chain really seemed to have been complaining about the context)

              • Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml
                184·
                1 year ago

                but if removed from that context it’s pretty reasonable

                Good grief. I am sorry, but that stances like this one come from the mouths of comrades is the reason why I always object when a communism study guide for beginners does not include texts from Alexandra Kollontai.

                Sex under coercion is rape. Work under the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is done by proletarians under economic coercion as they have to work to be able to fulfill their basic needs. Therefore, sex as a means of living, or in other words, prostitution, is rape.

                You have four options at this point: you can either accept this fact and move on; you can deny that work under a bourgeois dictatorship functions by placing working class people under economic coercion, a point at which you should consider why call yourself a communist anymore; or you could either deny that sex under coercion is rape or, heavens forbid it, that rape is acceptable under any economic system, both actions that would get yourself immediately kicked from any minimally respectable communist party. The choice is yours.

                • WithoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml
                  111·
                  1 year ago

                  I mean… that’s why I said “removed from context”. All of this is context, context that was missing from previous comments (which read more like “how dare this woman not be traditional” to me). I agree that prostitution is coercive and wrong in every current implementation.

              • GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml
                81·
                1 year ago

                “If we just remove the context of the largest human trafficking disaster Europe has seen in 30 years, it makes sense to want to be a prostitute in Ukraine!” Ukraine is literally the worst place on the continent to be doing that right now, not that it’s really the best place to do anything other than die.

          • GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml
            111·
            1 year ago

            You generally have a point but

            and all three of those things being assumed as the only roles a woman would play in a war is just gross

            ??? Cooking and first aid are normal things for volunteers to do, male or female, it’s not that she’s a woman, but women seem to mostly have the good sense to not fly halfway around the world to get blown up as soldiers like some functionally-suicidal men did, even though there are certainly women on both sides of the war in combat roles.

            There are some other normal volunteer roles, e.g. sanitation is very important, but you’d surely say the same thing if people were commenting on her not pursuing that (“oh! so women should be cleaners?”). Anything beyond that, like being a mechanic or nurse or something, requires a serious level of training

      • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
        182·
        1 year ago

        cooking and first aid

        Those require actual skill and effort. Sending nudes online does not

        • bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml
          1·
          1 year ago

          there can be skill and effort involved but it’s not something that straight men fighting a war would appreciate anyway so why bother tbh

  • ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml
    471·
    1 year ago

    Influencer and OnlyFans model Fan-Pei Koung is helping the Ukrainian wartime efforts with “free emotional breastfeeding to soldiers and volunteers

    I saw the new york post article on this on Hexbear yesterday, this was the preview tagline for the article, almost turned me into a Posadist on the spot

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
    424·
    1 year ago

    Make no mistake, this is to normalise comfort women, to make it seem like women want to be in this position. She’s a loud and proud “volunteer” so they can dismiss the voices of those forced into this. This is probably damage control for some impending sexual abuse scandal in Ukraine’s military. Muddying the waters before it actually comes to light.

    • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
      431·
      1 year ago

      Who was forced into it? Well, other than people raped by the invaders, but I suspect you’re not talking about those

        • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
          419·
          1 year ago

          According to conservatives of any colors it’s every time a woman does anything other than being a mother of 7 in a monogamous patriarchical relationships. Especially if she works as any type of sex worker.
          That isn’t to say that sex work isn’t ripe with problems with realyl occurring sex trafficking and otger problems like women being forced to participate due to the capitalist hell they are living in, but for some reason we are having this conversation under the post of a woman doing it on her owh will, so there is that.
          But all of it doesn’t realy matter I guess because I suspect the real reason for this post is to simp for putin by justifying his aggression with the usual “Ukraine bad because women are showing tits to people for money”

          • GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml
            191·
            1 year ago

            Your reading comprehension isn’t great. The problem isn’t that this woman is a prostitute, it’s that it’s normalizing the framing of “these men at war need access to sex,” which if you think about it for even a few seconds should raise red flags. If it is a “need,” then it is “necessary” to a war effort that it is accounted for, and suddenly you see the implication of a military prostitution industry, the existence of which would be a threat rather than a boon to impoverished women because, for this industry to be supplied, the powers that be will be sure there’s a minimum number of people who are desperate enough to sign up or else a good enough PR covering for what is actually slavery (such as corner cases of, to pick a totally random example, some woman flying halfway around the world to prostitute herself for free).

            • Dagwood222
              314·
              1 year ago

              Look up WW2 ‘V girls.’ Ukraine didn’t invent anything.

                • Dagwood222
                  14·
                  1 year ago

                  So, you didn’t look it up. USA ‘V girls’ were 100% volunteer.

              • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
                51·
                1 year ago

                Ukraine didn’t invent anything.

                Yep, even their genocidal fascist ideology is something they cribbed from the Italians and the Germans. Real loser country post-1991.

            • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
              319·
              1 year ago

              But fox news even more anti woman freedom than you are, and they definitely hate sex workers more than you do. How do you compute that?

              • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
                82·
                1 year ago

                Leave that poor straw man alone, he didn’t do anything to you.

                You can be opposed to prostitution and the exploitation thereof without hating sex workers. In fact, said opposition most often stems fro empathy towards sex workers.

    • WithoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml
      31·
      1 year ago

      I feel like consent has a lot to do with sexual acts being ok or not, but I doubt her respect would be consented given that she would be primarily surrounded by reactionary, armed men.

  • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
    191·
    1 year ago

    I saw this on reddit yesterday, and didn’t click because I really didn’t want it to be true.