These are the stupid ideas the Democrats come up with. There are three billionaires in Oregon. Three. If this passes I suspect they will just move.

At the federal level, this would be unconstitutional.

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    Because decreasing social spending creates not just one more problem, but multiple. Just look to Texas and the border crisis as a prime example. If there was more federal money for it, we could both secure the future of Medicare and Social Security and secure the border while providing a better immigration system.

    But the false dichotomy of decreased social spending for a more secure border is all Republican politicians are ever interested in. It’s a solution insofar as it generates political support for their short-term, misanthropic policies. In any other way, it’s only ever a problem.

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      Why the fuck would I support paying more taxes to secure the future of programs that I want thrown in the bin?

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            Those two sentences aren’t related.

            Social security and medicare both were policies designed to fix social problems in their time. That those problems are either mitigated or nonexistent is a testament to their effectiveness.

            As for redistribution, I agree! End fossil fuel and other corporate subsidies posthaste! Wtf does Tesla, Amazon, Alphabet, J.P. Morgan or any other large conglomeration need a tax break for?

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              You realize ending fossil fuel subsidizes will impact the poor the most?

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                Does it? I hear that, buy why/how does it impact the poor the most? I mean…aside from the fact that they have relatively less money anyway because economic institutions ensure they do…how else are they impacted?

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                  12 dollars a gallon as gas would destroy their budgets.

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              The great depression did not end because of any of the social security programs. It ended because of ww2 (most of those programs were suspended or eliminated to support ww2).

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              Subsidies =/= tax breaks. Surely you understand how giving money and not stealing are different. If not, I hope you enjoy my Christmas present of not robbing you blind.

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            I don’t mind paying taxes for things like roads, water, etc. Those are things we all need.

            I am against wealth distrubution. I don’t even mind social safety nets but we allow people to abuse them.

            The government shouldn’t be taking my money and sending it to someone else who didn’t earn it. That doesn’t create success.

            If welfare was successful then why haven’t we seen poverty eliminated? All it does is keep people on welfare and not being productive members of society.