It’s lemmygrad, we’re the spectre. I’d bet at least half of the other instances out there block us, there’s only like 300 dedicated users on this instance, and they still can’t stop complaining about lemmygrad/tankies

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    So just to wrap my head around this, the anti-imperialists are the ones who have invaded a sovereign country twice in 8 years?

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      The anti imperialists are the ones preventing the expansion of the organization that attacked Iraq, took part in several conflicts in former Yugoslavia, invaded Afghanistan, attacked Iraq again and then Libya.

      All while expanding to 15 countries in the last 30 years. That is the imperialism we are opposing.

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        So the anti-imperialists are the ones who invaded twice and annexed Chechnya, rolled tanks into Georgia, invaded Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea in a blatant land grab, levelled Syrian cities (which is ongoing btw) and used chemical weapons on civilians, aggressively pursued Russian interests in Mali, Libya and Sudan with the Wagner group, and started a full scale invasion of Ukraine which is ongoing… and they’re the good guys?

        It’s wild that you can look at them and say yeah, russia are the good guys in this whole thing lol. There’s a reason why countries want to be in NATO in 2023 and that reason is Russia.

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          There’s a reason why countries want to be in NATO in 2023 and that reason is Russia.

          Don’t sell NATO short; I’m sure the Afghani opium and Iraqi oil is also a pretty good motivator to get countries in NATO!

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          You did not just compare Russia preventing a Jihadist breakaway state from forming in their country to the US destroying Iraq for made up reasons and creating the catalyst for all modern Islamist terrorism, Jesus fucking Christ.

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              More ahistorical nonsense.

              They asked the Soviets to help them…kinda like how the people of the Donbass also asked Russia to help them.

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                And libs are fuming about it all the same. Almost like their dedication to objectivity and human rights is a lie and they just stan US empire no matter what.

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                  This is how you all act when confronted with your ignorance. Shut down and desperately try to project a facade of being above it all. Is it any wonder more and more people have stopped taking you status quo cultists seriously?

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      Is that the measure? Then you must agree that the US, after (at a minimum) it’s genocidal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, can never be trusted on matters of foreign policy again, right?

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        Absolutely not, that’s ridiculous. I’m not automatically pro-russian (and therefore pro-genocide) because the US is supplying arms to Ukraine. I’m not pro-US either by any measure and never have been.

        In this current war, that Russia started twice (!), I am pro-Ukraine. That the US is supplying arms to Ukraine is not only something I can live with, it’s something I fully support

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      🗣️ IMPERIALISM DOESNT MEAN “ONE COUNTRY INVADES ANOTHER PLEASE GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD”

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        Aight I googled it because learning is fun

        • a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means*

        Sounds like it fits mate

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          Lmao, you probably think the soviets pushing into Nazi Germany on the eastern front is Russian “imperialism” too, since a military entered a foreign country. Read a book.

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            Not at all dude. Russia defended its land in an existential war against a fascism in way not dissimilar to what Ukraine is doing right now. I suppose the question is why does Russia 41-45 have the right to defend their sovereignty while Ukraine 2014-present does not? Don’t forget that the Soviets benefitted massively from US and British arms and equipment much like Ukraine today.

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          Okay then can you tell me how Russia is extending it’s power and influence when it isn’t colonizing Ukraine?

          Why didn’t Russia invade it’s other neighbors if it’s sOoOoOo imperialist? There are easier targets than what was one of the larger armies in Europe?

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            Crimea ticks every box of being a colony lol

            And errrrmmmmm RUSSIA DID INVADE ITS NEIGHBOURS! And regularly does!

            You guys are fucking psychos haha

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        Ukraine is fighting an existential war against a country that NATO was formed to defend against. Are you seriously suggesting that not defending your territory from a very literal and an extensively documented attempt at genocide is the only valid option in your world view? Because holy fuck guy.

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            Ah yes those imperialist interests in Latvia, Estonia and North Macedonia. I’m not reading Lenin dude. After an hour with you lot I’m worried it’ll turn me into a fucking moron lol

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              After an hour with you lot I’m worried it’ll turn me into a fucking moron lol

              You say that as if you aren’t already.

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              After an hour with you lot I’m worried it’ll turn me into a fucking moron lol

              What an amazing way to say “I’ve never once done a lick of introspection a day in my life and I don’t intend to start now”

              tl;dr an utter ballbag

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              I’m not reading Lenin dude. After an hour with you lot I’m worried it’ll turn me into a fucking moron lol

              You never read anything that doesn’t already support your existing world view? Yikes, that…explains a lot.
              How can you even begin to argue against something that you refuse to even understand to begin with?

              I would say critically reading things you disagree with is even more important than reading things you already agree with.

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          Are you seriously suggesting that not defending your territory from a very literal and an extensively documented attempt at genocide is the only valid option in your world view? Because holy fuck guy.

          Lmao “genocide” I am begging liberals to realize that words mean things.

          The Russian Federation did intervene in Ukraine’s attempted genocide of ethnic russians in the Donbas though, which makes your cute little strawman up there particularly ironic

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            If words mean things, liberals can’t use them to say everyone they don’t like is a bad guy, and what’s more, with actual definitions, we’d quickly find that the west fits these definitions far more than any of their enemies. So naturally, words shouldn’t mean anything except “bad thing me no like.”