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The issue isn’t how the child died, when the child died. It’s the fact that the baby was put into a toilet, large enough to clog up the toilet, left in that toilet, and she went on her day,
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? If it’s a miscarriage it’s a miscarriage.
So she’s charged with … Not reacting how they’d like?
Land of the free my ass.
The timeline in the article isn’t super well laid out but it seems to me that “went on with her day” in this case was go to the hospital because she was bleeding like a lot.
In the article, they specifically complained she left the remains in the toilet while she went to the hospital. While I agree that’s a bad outcome, the people needing justiceto be meted out is everyone that prevented her from getting healthcare. This whole thing should not have happened
People miscarry on the toilet all the time. They also labor on the toilet. Labor pains and diarrhea go together like peanut butter and jelly
In the article, they specifically complained she left the remains in the toilet while she went to the hospital.
What did they want her to do, fish it out of the toilet, put it in a ziplock bag, and take it with her to the hospital?
That’s exactly what they want
It’s standard republican wordplay. A fetus that was dead when it left the womb isn’t a fucking person. That aside, it’s STILL none of their fucking business.
She also left the hospital multiple times against medical advice.
~~ CNN reached out to the hospital for > comment about why staff notified police. Maureen Richmond, vice president of integrated communications at Mercy Health – a Catholic health care system that includes St. Joseph Warren Hospital – sent the following statement to CNN:
“The safety and security of every patient who comes to us for care is our highest priority. Out of respect for patient privacy, we will not discuss individual specifics of care.
Oh that’s real fuckin convenient now
a Catholic health care system
is this like where the doctors and nurses have to be of the religion, or does the hospital get to decide who gets treated using their own rules? or something else? can someone explain this?
either way, what the fuck?
Employees don’t necessarily have to be Catholic, but the “guiding principles” of the hospital are rooted in Catholicism, including decisions like abortion. Catholicism will steer the types of care the hospital provides and its morality will affect care decisions, because as a “private entity” that’s a-ok.
I wouldn’t touch a faith-based healthcare provider with a 10’ pole.
Don’t worry it’s one of the growing sectors of the health care industry. Even if you don’t want to touch them they’ll buy out all the hospitals around you and touch you!
No, doctors and nurses don’t have to be Catholic, and the hospital is just a normal hospital. They even have religiously neutral “meditation chapels” instead of like, a small Catholic shrine.
I’ve been to this specific hospital. It’s bog-standard health care.
That’s not true. Link
Their standards of care are subject to “the Ethical and Religious Directives set by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.”
Just because you agree with those directives, does not mean they are standard healthcare.
I know that reading the PDF on that page requires SO many words, but I assure you that the health care they give is just normal health care, as you can see by actually reading the PDF.
Also I’m not sure what you mean by “agree with those directives” but I don’t give a fuck one way or the other about the hospital, I just know that they’re a normal hospital doing normal hospital shit.
Nothing in this case had jack shit to do with the hospital being Mercy hospital.
Perhaps if you have an axe to grind, do it somewhere that doesn’t involve an Ohioan talking about things in Ohio.
Nah. The second the standard of care is dictated by a religious council it’s not standard. I don’t care what altar they pray at. The very concept is unacceptable.
I, too, like to make weird arguments not based on reality
That’s a weird way to say a profession should have standards.
Of course that’s their answer. It would be breaking HIPAA laws to tell the press. Or the police, unless she was in custody.
we will not discuss individual specifics of care.
CALLING THE COPS IS NOT CARE
What’s your point?
Amazing. At-least someone with a shred of morality in the cesspit.
Imagine immense pain both physical and emotional from the loss of a child, only to have some Republican mfer involved.
Actually you don’t have to.
We see it all the time.
What the flying fuck was she supposed to do with that mess?
I love how the article makes it sound like she signed herself out AMA. I am certain they left her to rot in the waiting room for hours each time until she gave up on waiting and went home. You don’t have to sign AMA papers to leave and the hospital can still write it up that way (and charge your insurance).
Whoa now. The paperwork we produced with no input from the subject clearly states they left against medical advice. Which was “bleed quietly in the corner so you don’t scare the kids with flu.”
This is the best summary I could come up with:
An Ohio woman who had sought treatment at a hospital before suffering a miscarriage and passing her nonviable fetus in her bathroom now faces a criminal charge, her attorney told CNN.
Though a coroner’s office report said the fetus was not viable and had died in the womb, Watts’ case highlights the extent to which prosecutors can charge a woman whose pregnancy has ended – whether by abortion or miscarriage.
When she was first admitted to the Labor and Delivery Department at St. Joseph’s Hospital on September 19, “She was diagnosed with premature rupture of membranes and severe oligohydramnios,” the report states.
But for hours doctors and officials mulled the ethics of inducing labor for a woman who had been diagnosed with preterm premature rupture of membranes (PPROM), had no detectable amniotic fluid, was bleeding vaginally and had advanced cervical dilation, the Post reported.
“Near the side of the garage, next to a large trash can, there was a pile of tissue, blood and what appeared to be paper towels in the weeds,” the coroner’s office investigator, Alaina Jamison, wrote in the report.
“As citizens, we are outraged that the criminal justice system is being used to punish Ms. Watts who, like thousands of women each year, spontaneously miscarried a non-viable fetus into a toilet and then flushed,” the group said in an open letter to the Trumbull County prosecutor.
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The handmaid’s tale IRL.
Honestly, at this point, any woman who can afford it should get the fuck out of that insane country. It’s starting to be a matter of survival.
This is fucking insane! Republicans should be hounded, and bullied. Banished and driven out. They need to get their shit together and act like decent people.
This was always part of the design of overturning Roe. It has never been about the sanctity of life, in exactly the same way that the War on Drugs was never about health or preventing addiction or drug abuse.
The War on Drugs was a pretext for massively expanding the police state in order to disrupt the antiwar left and the black community. It was enacted under Nixon (who needed to shut down the antiwar left) shortly after desegregation (thus giving police forces broad latitude to profile and harass ‘suspicious’ people like black people). As a consequence, the antiwar left basically folded and today there are more black and brown people in prisons on drug charges than there ever were enslaved in America- and 20% of black people in Tennessee can’t vote because of a drug conviction.
The War on Abortion is the War on Drugs 2.0, only this time it targets a bigger slice of the population. Women charged with contrived felonies like this not only have to endure the hell of it, but also the insult of criminal charges- and like the War on Drugs, enforcement discretion will fall most-heavily upon black and brown people and anyone else that doesn’t ‘know their place’ to the satisfaction of anyone in a position to narc.
