• Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Speaking of xenophobia, you should look in the mirror.

    Quebec trying to protect its francophone cultural heritage in a whole anglophone continent with so much American cultural influences through media, music and the internet is not xenophobic. It’s actually even a problem that other countries outside North America are facing.

    In really sick and tired of the discrimination of Quebec and French Canadians coming from people like you who twist everything to fit their racist narrative.

    The only reason you’re so mad is that you can’t come live a life here speaking the only language you know, English, and it pisses you off that you have to learn a second language. You simply wish the the French Canadians would finally just all fold over, speak English and the whole French Canadian culture to disappear so it could stop be an inconvenience to you. I think THAT’S pretty xenophobic, actually.

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      11 months ago

      Je suis bilingue. Ma mère est francophone et je vis à Gatineau depuis 7 ans. Il n’y a que les francophone du Québec qui s’énervent quand je dis “bonjour hi”.

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      11 months ago

      in a whole anglophone continent

      Just simply and factually wrong. The entire continent is not anglophone. Way to completely eradicate indigenous heritage and other French areas throughout North America. Not to mention, you know, Mexico. And that’s if we’re talking mainland. If we’re talking the entirety of North America you’re including Bermuda, Greenland, Barbados, Cuba, Costa Rica, Panama, Honduras, Puerto Rico, FRANCE with St. Pierre and Miquelon…

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        11 months ago

        What other French areas in North America are you familiar with? The only one I can think of is maybe Haiti?

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          A chunk of New-Brunswick, a chunk of Eastern Ontario and a chunk of Northern Ontario, that’s pretty much it. There’s a couple of French communities left in Manitoba (when they were a big part of the province’s population until 100 years ago or so)…

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            11 months ago

            There is very little French spoken in New Orleans. There’s more creole, but is absolutely not used virtually anywhere as a part of daily life.

            I haven’t been to Baton Rouge, but a quick googling suggests the same. It is not an official language and not part of daily life. It is heritage more than practice.

            Which is what Quebec is trying to avoid.

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          11 months ago
          • Haiti.
          • Significant parts of New Brunswick
          • Significant parts of the southern United States, primarily Louisiana.
          • St. Pierre and Miquelon, otherwise known as France.

          I mean it’s the THIRD most spoken language in the entirety of North America. It is the second most widely taught foreign language (outside of Spanish) in American schools. Maine and Vermont essentially mainline French on the side with it being spoken pretty widely. Three major versions of French exist throughout the United States after descending from French settlers, much like Quebec. United States even has some towns (while small) that predominately speak French with Berlin, NH being one such example with over 10,000 citizens.

          Pretending that French is a niche language that is in risk of dying out is laughably pathetic.

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            There is very little French spoken in Louisiana. There’s more creole, but it’s still single digit percentages. It is not common and their curriculums are certainly not in French.

            The entire towns website for Berlin, NH is in English: https://www.berlinnh.gov/. There’s not even a French translation.

            I think you are severely overestimating the prevalence of French as an official language in North America - and even as a lingua Franca.

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            11 months ago

            You’re confusing all French together like it’s one monolithic language and everyone speaks the same dialect.

            It’s like saying English in Scotland, in Australia, in Texas, or whatever are all the same.

            They all have their district differences.

            The same with Québec French. It’s not France French.

            And they all have distinct cultures and music genres and poetry and literature and art that make up the whole local culture.

            That’s what you don’t seem to understand in this whole thing.

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        11 months ago

        Thank you for editing your response after figuring out from my other response that only saying “that is factually wrong” wasn’t good enough.

        There’s so much I would want to say about your answer and why is all irrelevant that I could write a book.

        You know, I was hoping I could find more civilized discussions here than on Reddit. But as soon as Quebec is mentioned absolutely anywhere on the internet, Canadians will come out in droves to talk shit about them all over the place. We are constantly facing this kind of narrative everywhere we look and it’s god damn tiring. It’s nothing short of discrimination and racism towards our people.

        So fucking sick and tired.

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          It’s funny that whole communities get banned for acting the same way about people of other nations, but being racist towards Quebecois always gets a free pass…

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            Yep, breaks my heart every fucking single time.

            Haters gonna hate, I guess.

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          11 months ago

          You are an active troll telling people to stop being angry because they said fuck once.

          What you say really doesn’t matter to me whatsoever.

          Have fun with that. Goodbye.

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        11 months ago

        Just simply and factually correct.

        Edit: OP’s original response was only

        “This is factually wrong.”

        I replied this to show OP that his answer wasn’t good enough and it worked.

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          So I guess Mexico doesn’t exist? Honduras? Cuba? Puerto Rico? St. Pierre and Miquelon?

          North America is more than just Canada and the United States and you’d do well to educate yourself on that before going on some diatribe about said region. Fucking GREENLAND is counted as part of North America dude. So no. You are simply wrong and do not know or understand what you’re talking about. North America is not an anglophone continent. There is a literal wikipedia page on all the languages of North America.

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            11 months ago

            Why are you so angry? Why all the swearing? Can you calm down and try to be a bit more civilized?