• JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        11 months ago

        The harm is that you can seriously harm someone. Like driving drunk.

        Are you for real?? Does this not make sense in your head?

      • fkn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        You find the right argument but you failed to make the right conclusion.

        Running a red light you are intentionally putting others lives at risk. If you run a red light on accident and you kill someone, it’s manslaughter. If you intentionally run a red light and kill someone its murder 2.

        • Touching_Grass@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          11 months ago

          Yet there is no victim. You’re not a victim because the risk is higher.

          Because then the argument changes to that there are victimless crimes that are reasonable to have and that on that scale everything from running red lights to drug use would be on it

          • fkn@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            Your inability to understand that killing someone when you run a red light and hit them is either man slaughter or murder is probably where your inability to see how your position is flawed comes from.