Getting tired of Geoff ngl

“No daddy, please don’t do that” also means different things to different people.

I love Geoff but that’s honestly a bad take. Indie means one studio/group of dudes, self-publishing, no external funding. That’s a pretty clear line to draw.

It loses a bit in translation from the original Doritos Pope Language. I believe what he said was, “Games? Money! Hype marketing ad revenue, corporate sponsorship “awards” money.”. Though my DPL is a bit rough these days.

Should be the same as independent or craft breweries in the US. There’s a legal definition to do with amount of beer produced and sold, which if goes above a certain threshold it can’t legally be called craft beer. Common sense the same goes for games, if it’s a large company making huge amounts of money then it clearly isn’t independent. Though large companies want to have that prestige and good will that goes towards smaller companies, so will do things like set up fake smaller companies and pretend they’re independent. Don’t be a fool and fall for it.

It doesn’t mean different things if you use a dictionary thou…

I’m not really independent if someone spots me a million dollars to do what I wanna do.

I think the spirit of games classification of AAA l, AA and indie comes from the expectations of the game.

Those expectations being generally:

Marketing dollars > Graphical fidelity > scope.

AAAs have all three in spades. AAs might have great graphics, but usually they’re just decent. But they usually have great scope. Indies have no marketing dollars, low budgets for graphics, generally smaller scopes.

If you define a game by its budget and maximum team size throughout development that metric would capture all the attributes here because each one costs money.

Then we can unchain the backroom deals on the funding of these games. It’s mostly irrelevant to the spirit of the game.

No the fuck it doesn’t.

It’s giving Starfield employees wading into the Steam comments to go “Actually having planets bereft of content is exactly how space works and therefore not boring.”

Sounds like the same bullshit rhetoric people use with the term remake today. Words and terms have meanings, and very rarely over decades do they change meaning.

Look at an Indie Band and you know what an Indie Game is.

Currently playing Dave the Diver, and I’m blown away!

I think there’s indie and indie-like which maybe would mean a game with a smaller budget focusing on creativity and gameplay ideas.

For me an independent game’s definition is quite straightforward, it doesn’t mean creative freedom, pixel art or cel shading, it means not backed by something like Nexon.

Now if they want to include more games than independent, they could rename it to “small team”, “indie style” etc but for 2023 it’s sadly too late to correct it

Indie does not mean independent in the current interpretation of the word. It means small dev team with a small budget.

If indie just means independent then Cyberpunk 2077 is an indie game.

This event is a joke. I was looking at the 30 games available to vote at Player’s Voice and there was 0 indie games in there. But you know what? I can vote for genshin, apex, and all those online bullshit. It’s all about popularity, marketing. It’s all about money.

I feel like “independent” would mean a team independent of any major publisher or financing. They should rename the category best “indie” game which might have a bit more room for interpretation. Also I guess Pentiment is an independent game.