It’s why I simply do not respect the opinions of people who say “I gave up on Discovery/SNW/Picard/LD in the first or second season.” I never have and I never will. That stance has an extreme double standard and I simply do not have a single ounce of respect for people who push it.
Those shows have around 10 episodes a season.
TNG, DS9, and VOY had about 20-24 per season.
They also ALL started with some really shitty opening seasons. Voyager didn’t get going until season 4ish, DS9 didn’t until late season 2/season 3. TNG took about two seasons to fully find its feet and have some of the most godawful TV of all Star Trek.
The same people whinin about New Trek will sit through all that garbage but won’t sit through 2 seasons of Discovery/Picard when it’s fewer episodes than a single season of OldTrek
If you say you don’t like the show then you don’t like the show. But anyone who says" I gave up after Season 1 or Season 2" I just immediately write off. I’ll still be respectful and kind and polite and care about them but opinions on what is and isn’t good Star Trek? Discarded on sight.
When I would re-watch TNG I used to skip the first two seasons. They’re pretty rough, but then I missed some of the good ones (measure of man, for example). Now I just skip the individual crappy ones.
Exactly. That’s how to judge it. There are some amazing episodes but ignoring a show entirely because of some weak overall seasons is doing nothing but a disservice to yourself and to the show.
I think people are holding SNW in such high regard because when it’s compared to the rest of nu-trek, it’s god tier. By itself, it’s ok. I like it well enough. Plenty of stinkers episodes though. I still have hope for it.
Fervently disagree, it has squandered all it could have been and the writing is still absolutely awful. Granted, it’s a notch above Discovery and Picard.
Strange New Worlds is fantastic and takes plenty of risks other shows don’t.
It’s a little little hit or miss. I really liked some of it, but some of the early stuff wasn’t so great.
So it really is Star Trek, then. :P
People like to forget how many shit episodes of every series there are.
It’s why I simply do not respect the opinions of people who say “I gave up on Discovery/SNW/Picard/LD in the first or second season.” I never have and I never will. That stance has an extreme double standard and I simply do not have a single ounce of respect for people who push it.
Those shows have around 10 episodes a season.
TNG, DS9, and VOY had about 20-24 per season.
They also ALL started with some really shitty opening seasons. Voyager didn’t get going until season 4ish, DS9 didn’t until late season 2/season 3. TNG took about two seasons to fully find its feet and have some of the most godawful TV of all Star Trek.
The same people whinin about New Trek will sit through all that garbage but won’t sit through 2 seasons of Discovery/Picard when it’s fewer episodes than a single season of OldTrek
If you say you don’t like the show then you don’t like the show. But anyone who says" I gave up after Season 1 or Season 2" I just immediately write off. I’ll still be respectful and kind and polite and care about them but opinions on what is and isn’t good Star Trek? Discarded on sight.
When I would re-watch TNG I used to skip the first two seasons. They’re pretty rough, but then I missed some of the good ones (measure of man, for example). Now I just skip the individual crappy ones.
Exactly. That’s how to judge it. There are some amazing episodes but ignoring a show entirely because of some weak overall seasons is doing nothing but a disservice to yourself and to the show.
Idk, I watched 2-3 seasons of DSC and gave up, my gf liked it so she kept watching it, whenever I’d watch an episode with her, I wouldn’t enjoy it.
DSC convinced her to watch TNG, so we watched it from the start and seasons 1-2 were better than I remembered.
You’re not wrong…
I think people are holding SNW in such high regard because when it’s compared to the rest of nu-trek, it’s god tier. By itself, it’s ok. I like it well enough. Plenty of stinkers episodes though. I still have hope for it.
I actually rather like it. I think it’s made good progress past its first season. 
Fervently disagree, it has squandered all it could have been and the writing is still absolutely awful. Granted, it’s a notch above Discovery and Picard.
Why?