• wahming@monyet.cc
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    10 months ago

    Honestly though, isn’t this kind of on the customer for agreeing to it in the first place?

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      10 months ago

      Some things just shouldn’t be allowed, especially when this is aimed at the most vulnerable of society.

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        10 months ago

        Ok, what is it specifically that shouldn’t be allowed here? Renting items? Setting prices higher than somebody else?

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          10 months ago

          In this case it’s through the Centrelink specific Centrepay system. Given it’s a government approved system they can presumably remove approval of this company for any reason, so it doesn’t have to reach a level of law breaking, just an obvious to everyone ethical breach.

          In any case, as stated in the article, Rents4Keep are currently being sued by ASIC for breaches of the Credit Act.

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            10 months ago

            I dunno, seems like a pretty big stretch to call equipment rental usury.

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              Not at all. A rent to own scheme is essentially legally identical to getting a seller or third party loan except for when title passes over to the consumer. In most other respects, especially in outcome, it’s the same transaction dressed up specifically to avoid existing usury laws.

              Even Rent4Keeps’s own website calculates costs by comparing it to an installment loan for sale of goods. Doesn’t get more transparent than that.

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                10 months ago

                A rent to own scheme is essentially legally identical to getting a seller or third party loan except for when title passes over to the consumer

                Interesting point. Though I have to wonder if making it illegal would just change their sales pitch to permanent rental, instead of rent to own. Ultimately, I feel the solution should lie more in educating consumers on financial literacy.

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                  10 months ago

                  Ultimately, I feel the solution should lie more in educating consumers on financial literacy.

                  You can crack down on predatory lending and educate consumers. However, you’ll never be able to educate the average consumer to be immune from sophisticated schemes simply because most people have other things to do on life and scammers devote a lot more time creating new scams than the average person can devote to learning about avoiding scams.

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                    10 months ago

                    I’m not sure this qualifies as sophisticated - or even a scam, when everything is specified in plain text.

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      10 months ago

      Exactly. Houso’s gonna houso. If she’s going to put her whole life on new item afterpay, you deserve the stupid. This is someone who grew up in these communities and most get next gen tech and second hand/scratch and dent appliances. Just because you didn’t finish school doesn’t mean you can’t be shrewd

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        are you pro-elderly people being scammed by ‘tech support’?

        This 100% qualifies as an unscrupulous trade practice. The pricing is exploitative targeting vulnerable people, making them sign opaque contracts money directly from disability pension and making consumers think there is some level of state approval with the centrepay thing.

        It is the job of the state to protect people from these things especially considering they are operating formally.

        You are the one who is uneducated for spewing dogshit like this. You are the one who needs to be sent to a re-education camp. Australians are so braindead from neoliberal ideology.

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        10 months ago

        I am apparently the next Mussolini though, if you go by the rest of these comments. It’s like nobody gives a fuck about education any more.