My primary argument is that they post hateful content and covid conspiracies and it is irresponsible to platform this by including it in our federation. Secondly we already got rid of lemmygrad. Thirdly, there’s little to be lost in the defederation given the type of stuff being posted over there. Do as thou wilt

Aye and nays pls

Edit: putting the screencaps I posted below here for clarity

I should probably put a content warning so

CW: homophobia, transphobia, and just being a shithead.

Edit 2: let’s try not to downvote people just saying nay. Unless they are making bad faith arguments we should respect their opinions even if we disagree.

Edit 3: Imma be real with y’all, this has been a real shitshow. We gotta work out some kinda single voting infrastructure because the ayes and Nays isn’t efficient at all.

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Defederation doesn’t prevent them from subscribing to communities here and seeing what we’re saying, it prevents local users from seeing what they post on their instance and on our instance. People who question what they see here can just subscribe here or on an instance we’re still federated with and come ask questions in good faith, it will be way easier to manage than letting all of them take part.

    But again, experts don’t debate them, we can’t expect people who have no special training to be the social workers these people need when they’ve reached the deeper end.

    • Contextual Idiot@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Again, I don’t want to debate or discuss with any of the repeat offenders in the posts that @chalkman showed us. You are right, we won’t be able to save them, only they can do that.

      I don’t believe that every user on that instance is as bad as those folks, and the only way to make sure they don’t end up like that is to show them another way.

      And would you take part in a community that you couldn’t interact with? In my case, I haven’t gone to interact with any communities in Beehaw because what’s the point?

      If you don’t want to interact with anyone from that instance, then don’t. We have the tools, and likely more are coming with future updates to Lemmy. But one thing we can’t forget is that these are people. I just want them to see that we are too.