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    I don’t buy it because there’s no way this tiny little drone could have done any damage. Why did it hit the flag pole too? Loss of control?

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      this tiny little drone could have done any damage

      There’s plenty of footage, both Russian and Ukrainian, of teeny tiny copters butchering whole squads of soldiers with a single grenade drop. And this one isn’t even that tiny

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            Maybe false flag, although it would be an egregious one, or this was planned by someone who has no idea what they were doing… not sure which one is more believable.

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              Maybe this thing? It’s not the first time armed drone flied near Moscow.

              I don’t believe in the false flag, western and UA propaganda used this card with every single terrorist attack and atrocity before.

              Also this explosion wasn’t really that small if you look at it few times (for example compare scale with seats), if the target was some particular room it would easily kill eveyone inside. Roof was definitely not the target and i read that Russiasn said they jammed that drone so it was most likely out of control at the moment of explosion.

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    We don’t need to escalate the situation, gotta say this seem way to convenient that when Kiev makes contact with Beijing about a peace talks this happens

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      Rash escalation would indeed be a mistake. Provocations like this happen because the trajectory on the actual battlefield is not going the way that Ukraine’s western handlers were hoping. It is an attempt to make Russia make emotionally motivated changes to their strategy.

      The thing to focus on now is the defeat of the upcoming “counter-offensive”: https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/operational-update-4

      This doesn’t mean that another wave of large scale missile strikes/bombings is out of the question, and Russia may well choose to claim that these are retaliation for the terrorist act, but they will hit meaningful military targets like concentrations of troops, equipment and logistics hubs.

      As for the “talks” between Kiev and Beijing, if they can even be called that, they are a formality, nothing more. No one expects anything to come of such initiatives because Kiev are in no position to negotiate or be negotiated with. The ones making the decisions sit in Washington and Brussels. They are the ones who will eventually sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, mediated by China.

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        As for the “talks” between Kiev and Beijing, if they can even be called that, they are a formality, nothing more. No one expects anything to come of such initiatives because Kiev are in no position to negotiate or be negotiated with.

        Didn’t Zelensky straight up told Xi they want Crimea back? Not exactly surprising since that is the official position of UA government and he couldn’t say anything else since i bet some ears were listening to that call, but it does not left any margin for real negotiations.

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          That just shows how un-serious they are. The clowns in Kiev know that that demand is a non-starter for Russia. There will sooner be a nuclear war than Russia giving up Crimea. China knows it too. And so does Washington. All that it does is confirm to the Chinese that the Ukrainians and their puppetmasters in the West have no intention of negotiating.

          But China needs to go through the motions to show to the rest of the world that they are the reasonable adult in the room. They can say: hey, at least we tried, and we will not be the ones to blame for the continued destruction of Ukraine. It also helps Russia justify why it needs to keep fighting because clearly it is dealing with irrational people who do not want peace.

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            But China needs to go through the motions to show to the rest of the world that they are the reasonable adult in the room

            Show it to whom, exactly? The global south either knew that already or cares little for some whities killing each other somewhere far away. The west doesn’t care and neither do western-brained libs worldwide

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            Yeah exactly what i was thinking too, especially with how seriously is Chinese diplomacy treated right now. That action with Iran and KSA did a huge impression even in the west, after all it’s western media who were telling the story how they are natural enemies.