Are you arguing a high price point for MTG is good? That’s laughable. A game should be balanced by play skill. I play cEDH which has turn 1 wins but they’re infrequent and I never expect my opponent to actually own the cards. I want to play opponents, not their wallet. Some formats are financially restrictive and that just plain stupid.
That’s why I also mentioned that those cards are banned in almost every format. Of course, skill is better than money, but because of the complexity of mtg having a good deck makes a huge difference. Also just so that you know. For a round 1 kill in mtg you need to draw the black lotus(which you are only allowed to have once in your deck), the card channel fireball, one red mana and a shock. You need to draw all this cards in order to insta kill your opponent. It’s very powerful, but also very rare.
At least you’re onboard with skill>money. Your example is referring only to Vintage though. There are plenty of turn 1 wins in any of the Eternal formats, there have also been turn 0 wins (win in your opponents first turn upkeep). Even in Vintage, there are many more ways to turn 1 win, without Black Lotus. In cEDH turn 1 wins are uncommon but there are plenty of decks where they can occur but to your point, it is very rare. cEDH has the added benefit of 3 opponents trying to stop you but even then early wins happen. The banlist being built around casual Commander but used for cEDH doesn’t help.
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Are you arguing a high price point for MTG is good? That’s laughable. A game should be balanced by play skill. I play cEDH which has turn 1 wins but they’re infrequent and I never expect my opponent to actually own the cards. I want to play opponents, not their wallet. Some formats are financially restrictive and that just plain stupid.
That’s why I also mentioned that those cards are banned in almost every format. Of course, skill is better than money, but because of the complexity of mtg having a good deck makes a huge difference. Also just so that you know. For a round 1 kill in mtg you need to draw the black lotus(which you are only allowed to have once in your deck), the card channel fireball, one red mana and a shock. You need to draw all this cards in order to insta kill your opponent. It’s very powerful, but also very rare.
At least you’re onboard with skill>money. Your example is referring only to Vintage though. There are plenty of turn 1 wins in any of the Eternal formats, there have also been turn 0 wins (win in your opponents first turn upkeep). Even in Vintage, there are many more ways to turn 1 win, without Black Lotus. In cEDH turn 1 wins are uncommon but there are plenty of decks where they can occur but to your point, it is very rare. cEDH has the added benefit of 3 opponents trying to stop you but even then early wins happen. The banlist being built around casual Commander but used for cEDH doesn’t help.