• Cleverdawny
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    1 year ago

    Hamas is the group which launched the rocket at the hospital. Accidentally - they were trying to hit Israeli civilians - but their rocket hit the hospital.

    Also, Hamas controls the Gaza health authority, so any casualty figures they give can be tossed.

    • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Keep in mind you didn’t engage with anything else i mentioned. You deflected and are now talking about something else.

      So Hamas hits this hospital and kills people, or there is an aummunition depot below the hospital, or whatever else. Does this give Israel the justification to retaliate 100 fold? Does this give Israel the justification to cut water, electricity, and Internet from Palestine?

      Keep in mind, the reason why Israel cut electricity and internet is to make sure accurate information isn’t released into the world. Keep in mind, that Israel has a strong record of lying about these kinds of attacks. Keep in mind, they have killed journalists and attacksd civilians many times.

      Just a reminder of my question:

      Does Hamas blowing up a hospital give Israel the justification to retaliate 100 fold? Should they send 100 missiles now into Palestine, especially when a hospital is it?

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        1 year ago

        Why is Israel obligated to endlessly supply water, power, electricity to a people engaged in open hostilities against the people of Israel? I agree that ideally the people of Gaza would have water and all the necessities of life, but they aggressively attacked Israel via their government, committed ghastly atrocities, and started a war. Now we are talking about the need for the government of Israel to supply the means to continue manufacturing weapons and prosecuting a war to the territory of a hostile foreign power?

        If Israel cuts off necessities, or maintains a blockade on those necessities, then the people of Gaza should ask their government want their contingency plan was for supplying those necessities during their genocidal war against the people of Israel.

        Does Hamas blowing up a hospital give Israel the justification to retaliate 100 fold?

        Hamas declared war on Israel. If they’re hiding behind civilians in an attempt to maximize civilian collateral damage while Israel strikes back against them, then the people who die in those reprisals should address their concerns to their government and ask why their military forces are being hidden among civilians populations and buildings.

        • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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          Why is Israel obligated to endlessly supply water, power, electricity

          Because they literally control it. Palestinians are in a concentration camp. Israel is the more powerful one, has a better military, better resources, and they control everything about Gaza. You are effectively asking them to commit a humanitarian crime (which they are doing).

          “Oh fuck. Afghanistan has Al Qaeda. Let’s just stop their water, power, and internet access because of that.”

          We don’t even treat the DPRK that way. The world still sends them aid even if they rattle their sabers.

          If Israel cuts off necessities, or maintains a blockade on those necessities, then the people of Gaza should ask their government want their contingency plan was for supplying those necessities during their genocidal war against the people of Israel.

          Then Hamas, a corrupt, jihadist organization, will just use the water, food, fuel, and ammunition they stockpiled while the people of Palestine starve and die. “Oh but they should rise up and fight against Hamas!” With what weapons? Food? Fuel? Water?

          Nonetheless, the core of your statement is: “Let Israel commit a war crime by cutting off water and electricity to Palestine and let them deal with it” (while not acknowledging Israel is ready to move onto the ground and start mowing people down).

          • Cleverdawny
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            1 year ago

            Because they literally control it. Palestinians are in a concentration camp.

            Wow sounds like it would be a really stupid idea to attack the people supplying necessities to the city. A really stupid idea.

            Nonetheless, the core of your statement is: "Let Israel commit a war crime

            Dude, refusing to supply an enemy nation with sundry supplies isn’t a war crime.

            “Oh but they should rise up and fight against Hamas!” With what weapons? Food? Fuel? Water?

            Idk man, the people of Gaza put Hamas in power, it’s their job to get them out of power.

            Or Israel can do it for them. By force. That’s their choice. They chose to put deranged genocidal terrorists in charge and now they are reaping the whirlwind.