Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. referred to Black people as "colored people" Thursday in floor debate over his proposed amendment to an annual defense policy bill, prompting a stern rebuke from the former chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. Lawmakers were debating a series of GOP-backed amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act, which the House aims to pass by the end of the week.
It’s disrespectful to keep referring to anyone by any name that they’ve requested you to not use to reference. Kind of simple right?
Apparently this is a very difficult concept for people to grasp.
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“Mein Führer” and “my boss” mean the same thing. My boss definitely won’t mind if I use those interchangeably. Arguing otherwise is just semantics. /s
More like antisemantics
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“Fuck you” vs “you fuck” is just semantics. Ignore that “asshole”.
Turn out it’s the definition of rational as it can be empirically supported. From further up in the thread:
There actually is proper data showing that this kind of thing can actually make a meaningful difference, and surely we’re all evidence-driven people here, right?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1528-1167.2008.01899.x
Not an exact parallel, but the point stands that these kinds of language patters can genuinely influence perception.
Its that simple, making People the prominent noun in the semantics makes people humanized. Adding colored beforehand denotes some imperative difference that must be considered for it to be placed before their humanity.
This is honestly ridiculous logic. That’s how adjectives work. Calling someone a tall person isn’t dehumanizing them.
Totally ignoring the evidence provided that it does make a difference.
Also, to state the obvious, tall people aren’t a marginalized group in our society so it may not activate the same nueral pathways that lead to bias.
The study you quoted isn’t the same thing. It would be more like comparing “people of color” with “coloreds”. And to your point about how tall people aren’t marginalized, that’s kind of my point. “Colored people” is offensive because it’s been used derogatorily for so long, not because of the word order. That same wikipedia article points out that there are several marginalized groups that reject people first language. It mentions Deaf and autistic people, but anecdotally I’ve never seen anyone take offense to “gay people” or “trans people” either. It’s just the specific history of the adjective “colored” being applied to people that makes the difference.
It’s kind of a dialect type thing where certain phrases or wording gives more information than just what’s been stated. Whether the speaker actually means those things is different than what the listener hears and understands.
In this particular case the usual implication is, “I’m trying to be polite but if I could I would use the N word instead.”. Especially because it’s more of an older term.
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It is part of how some folks think.
I managed an IT dept and my sole employee was black. Great guy with a great sense of humor.
One day, the Director of HR, yes, HR, emailed support, asking that someone come take a look at her “colored printer”.
He joked that as the colored IT guy, he would go fix it. ROFL.
This woman was raised as a racist, but her role precluded her speaking her mind.
Her manner of thinking did out her, nonetheless.