That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
Holding a conversation in such a large place would be near impossible from experience, no matter how many channels there are. It’s just not going to be pleasant because it’s not made for what they want to do.
Discords with 100-300 people with around 20-30% active and 15% very active with 20% popping in occasionally for an hour or two and the rest just lurking seems like a good sweet spot for discord servers
Yeah, discords a mess. Its a fine voice chat app, but for everything else, its like using a phillips screwdriver on a flat head. Yeah, you can probably muscle it out, but it aint gonna be pretty and theres better ways to do it.
Understandable, it’s not for everyone. It’s a decent option for someone that already has a discord account and wants to leave Reddit, but at the same time doesn’t understand/want to joint Lemmy or kbin.
Fair point. I keep forgetting that’s a thing, because I’ve genuinely never seen anyone ever use it aside from one single time just to see what it did/harass another user. And then immediately everyone went, “Huh. Neat,” and lost interest.
They actually added a feature/channel type not long ago that’s supposed to make it more like forums or discussion boards, but it doesn’t appear to be in wide use, most servers just use the standard text chat thing and it’s a pain in the ass to find anything or keep up a normal conversation in there. I didn’t even realize it was a thing until a month or two ago when somebody else pointed it out to me. It apparently didn’t make a big splash at the time when it was released or they didn’t make a big deal about it.
That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
It’s the difference between asynchronous and synchronous mediums of communication. Lemmy is much closer to async, and Discord much closer to sync. No medium is ever going to be able to square that circle. You can’t have both.
Yeah, I am pretty sure it is actually the opposite of helpful if someone digs up a fashion post more than a year old, at most. Men’s fashion doesn’t change quite as fast as women’s fashion, but fast enough that it’s a bad idea to look in the archives unless you know what was in style at that time is still in style. And if you know that, why look it up?
I’m very tech-literate but Discord has always seemed so fucking messy to me. So many channels and emojis and I barely know how to send someone a DM or add them to my friends list or whatever. How on earth are you supposed to keep track of anything?
It’s buggy as hell on mobile too, the official desktop client is literally just an app with an outdated version of electron that has memory leaks easily
The username change pissed a lot of people off (2015 account and still couldn’t get the 4 letter I had before) and they canceled nitro over it. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they lost money on this move.
Yeah, it seems they’re beginning to head that way, with the nitro first and then the super emotes or whatever they’re called. I suppose I can see, if it’s server cost, but the unnecessary bells and whistles are beginning to bug me and it’s only going to continue.
Unfortunately, it’s a natural result of Discord moving from being a useful little service to a “platform” with investors and needing to constantly be updated with useless nonsense to keep the “value” of the product alive.
Realistically, once everything was up and running, and they had moved their DB over to their current platform, someone should have taken the keys away from them and just said “Discord is done, it’s complete”. We likely wouldn’t be having this much of a problem with useful information being hidden away behind Discord server invite URLs.
I like the continued migrations from Reddit but Discord doesn’t seem like the best destination
Yeah, to be truly useful, a community needs to be googleable. And discord is certainly not that.
That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
Holding a conversation in such a large place would be near impossible from experience, no matter how many channels there are. It’s just not going to be pleasant because it’s not made for what they want to do.
Very large discords don’t work for chatting.
Discords with 100-300 people with around 20-30% active and 15% very active with 20% popping in occasionally for an hour or two and the rest just lurking seems like a good sweet spot for discord servers
I wad on a discord with 20 people. After ten minutes I left. How anyone had a conversation is beyond me
It’s a skill those of us from the IRC days cultivated.
I’m glad I’m not good at it anymore.
you just gotta shout and hope they hear you
I think everyone really appreciates the occasional @everyone, helps folks remember they’re alive and all
Discord has threads now, works just like Reddit.
You can create a thread and people can comment on them just fine.
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Looks just as clunky as the rest of discord. Sorry, its just not the same.
Yeah, discords a mess. Its a fine voice chat app, but for everything else, its like using a phillips screwdriver on a flat head. Yeah, you can probably muscle it out, but it aint gonna be pretty and theres better ways to do it.
nah, it’s like using a Phillips screwdriver on anything, there’s better things in every way
Understandable, it’s not for everyone. It’s a decent option for someone that already has a discord account and wants to leave Reddit, but at the same time doesn’t understand/want to joint Lemmy or kbin.
As someone that’s used it for work, I don’t find it very different than the Lemmy UI at all
Fair point. I keep forgetting that’s a thing, because I’ve genuinely never seen anyone ever use it aside from one single time just to see what it did/harass another user. And then immediately everyone went, “Huh. Neat,” and lost interest.
Understandable, it’s pretty useful in the IOS Beta community for being able to see new features or bugs without having them in a general chat group.
They actually added a feature/channel type not long ago that’s supposed to make it more like forums or discussion boards, but it doesn’t appear to be in wide use, most servers just use the standard text chat thing and it’s a pain in the ass to find anything or keep up a normal conversation in there. I didn’t even realize it was a thing until a month or two ago when somebody else pointed it out to me. It apparently didn’t make a big splash at the time when it was released or they didn’t make a big deal about it.
It’s the difference between asynchronous and synchronous mediums of communication. Lemmy is much closer to async, and Discord much closer to sync. No medium is ever going to be able to square that circle. You can’t have both.
I don’t think fashion advice needs to be googleable?
I could post a picture of me wearing a shirt and ask people what their opinion is and then everyone moves. Doesn’t need to be archived on the net
Yeah, lots of stuff is temporary, not like IT where solutions posted and searchable could save thousands of people headache and time.
Yeah, I am pretty sure it is actually the opposite of helpful if someone digs up a fashion post more than a year old, at most. Men’s fashion doesn’t change quite as fast as women’s fashion, but fast enough that it’s a bad idea to look in the archives unless you know what was in style at that time is still in style. And if you know that, why look it up?
I’m very tech-literate but Discord has always seemed so fucking messy to me. So many channels and emojis and I barely know how to send someone a DM or add them to my friends list or whatever. How on earth are you supposed to keep track of anything?
it’s chaotic as fuck and nothing like reddit / lemmy / kbin.
Just a giant chat room, nothing permanent
It’s buggy as hell on mobile too, the official desktop client is literally just an app with an outdated version of electron that has memory leaks easily
and discord will perform their own major enshittification stunt sooner or later
They’ve already started
The username change pissed a lot of people off (2015 account and still couldn’t get the 4 letter I had before) and they canceled nitro over it. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they lost money on this move.
“Will”?
Yeah, it seems they’re beginning to head that way, with the nitro first and then the super emotes or whatever they’re called. I suppose I can see, if it’s server cost, but the unnecessary bells and whistles are beginning to bug me and it’s only going to continue.
Unfortunately, it’s a natural result of Discord moving from being a useful little service to a “platform” with investors and needing to constantly be updated with useless nonsense to keep the “value” of the product alive.
Realistically, once everything was up and running, and they had moved their DB over to their current platform, someone should have taken the keys away from them and just said “Discord is done, it’s complete”. We likely wouldn’t be having this much of a problem with useful information being hidden away behind Discord server invite URLs.
unlucky for discord they are the most easily replaceable platform of them all and there are already selfhostable clones
Yeah, many users of hardwareswap were not thrilled to hear they’d be moving to Discord.
I found it depends on the sub Reddit.