Democratic socialist politicians like Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib are right about the violence in Israel and Palestine: we should both be mourning civilian deaths and calling for an end to the Israeli occupation.
Sadly, yeah. I’ve seen a few on Lemmy, which disappoints me. I mean, it’s not that hard:
Don’t support targeting civilians and cutting people’s heads off.
Don’t support illegal settlements and systematic oppression.
Why is that difficult? Why is it so goddamn difficult to say both are wrong in different ways? Supporting Israel’s right to exist free from terrorism against innocent civilians is not identical to supporting illegal expansion and the oppression of the Palestinian people. And supporting Palestine’s right to exist free from tyranny and encroachment is not identical to supporting Hamas, which is a horrendous terrorist organization that is just as awful to the Palestinians as they clearly are to civilian Israelis.
Just look further down in this thread. You can see one person justifying Hamas and saying “slave rebellions require the wanton killing of their masters” and another justifying Israel’s actions by conflating all of Palestine with Hamas.
It’s the rare case where there are actually a nontrivial group of people taking what would be otherwise a strawman position. And that makes it incredibly difficult for us to discuss this like adults. This conflict is the perfect storm of centuries of geopolitics, anti semitism, anti Muslim sentiment, and nationalism.
The only good people here are the innocent civilians, and they’re the ones being brutally murdered and bombed and taken hostage.
All I’ve heard are people that don’t support either group.
The only “support” I heard were from people claiming others had support for either. It was all third person.
Are there really people who support either?
Sadly, yeah. I’ve seen a few on Lemmy, which disappoints me. I mean, it’s not that hard:
Why is that difficult? Why is it so goddamn difficult to say both are wrong in different ways? Supporting Israel’s right to exist free from terrorism against innocent civilians is not identical to supporting illegal expansion and the oppression of the Palestinian people. And supporting Palestine’s right to exist free from tyranny and encroachment is not identical to supporting Hamas, which is a horrendous terrorist organization that is just as awful to the Palestinians as they clearly are to civilian Israelis.
Just look further down in this thread. You can see one person justifying Hamas and saying “slave rebellions require the wanton killing of their masters” and another justifying Israel’s actions by conflating all of Palestine with Hamas.
It’s the rare case where there are actually a nontrivial group of people taking what would be otherwise a strawman position. And that makes it incredibly difficult for us to discuss this like adults. This conflict is the perfect storm of centuries of geopolitics, anti semitism, anti Muslim sentiment, and nationalism.
The only good people here are the innocent civilians, and they’re the ones being brutally murdered and bombed and taken hostage.