Okay, while I’m not a fan of a fragmented internet, I am a fan of losing all the russian trolls that plague many parts of the internet and online gaming. Counterstrike and similar games will lose their saltiest players too!
Just to be clear, you just break two russian laws and if we was on smth like VKontacte (russian facebook, bought by government via mailru long time ago) and you was russian citizen in russia, you could be sentenced for prison from 12 to 20 years.
I’m skidaddle skadoodle from russia year ago, and that was a best decision in my whole life. Sadly, not every one can leave at this point, cause europe (even when they allowed to get visa) was too expensive for average russian and smth close and more affordable, like China, Kazakhstan, etc., not too much better then russia.
It will be a bit easier for me, if you can check for yourself via translator. I use firefox TWP extension to translate sites from lang I do not know.
So, there it is, link 1, law that usually used as “appendant” for a case. Any hatespeech against goverment was determent by this law, before specific ones was introduced: link2 for example.
link3 by this law you can also get up to 5 years of prison, that one actually not so often used, but you can check for yourself, there was a list of sued people, cant find it right now. Upd. Found it!
Upd1. I didnt notice until now, but site that tracked everyone, who was illegally sentenced to prison, have been liquidated in 2022 apr 5. So, it’s not updated since then and do not have people who was recently got sued.
But that all just child play, cause last couple of days they caught people link4, link5 by this law, also know as treason. Especially funny to hear that about trans dude, who just donated own money to Ukrainians military forces.
Also, if you “mass media” of some sort, or just more popular, then a stone from a road, you got this as a bonus.
List can go on, when I said about “laws that was broken” I meant only first and link4, cause they more often used, if police just need a case.
So, as you can see, Russia is a wonderful country, 10 out of 10, would never live there ever again.
Having populations under the thumb of dictators is bad for everyone, even if you live in a relatively free country. Any tools and mechanisms they use to oppress their people are, by extention, bad.
Reposting my reply to someone else on this topic for visibility:
The Russian scammers are using a ton of proxies and VPNs. Unfortunately, this change will not affect them unless the Russian government completely removes access to the global Internet, and even then, the corruption is so deep that many officials will be selling access to the global Internet to their friends or people with with money.
Russian scammers and social media manipulators are here to stay, likely because they’re largely state run initiatives and they’ll still have access to the global Internet.
What this does is keep the normal Russians insulated from the rest of the world and unable to coordinate outside of their own country, where everything they do is even more tightly controlled by the government.
1- All countries have trolls, in one degree or another.
2- That will also affect the Russian population, who will become even more isolated and powerless.
Okay, while I’m not a fan of a fragmented internet, I am a fan of losing all the russian trolls that plague many parts of the internet and online gaming. Counterstrike and similar games will lose their saltiest players too!
Unfortunately I don’t think this means they will stop trolling the actual internet, even if they block it from their own country
If we are not able to stop them from infiltrating our internet (if they leave), what stops us from infiltrating their internet?
Agreed. This is the correct answer.
I am not a fan of millions of Russian citizens being in a walled garden of censorship however
Why?
I don’t wish it for me but what if the Russian people is not against it?
That’s a problem only they can address
How is this a real comment you just made
Just to be clear, you just break two russian laws and if we was on smth like VKontacte (russian facebook, bought by government via mailru long time ago) and you was russian citizen in russia, you could be sentenced for prison from 12 to 20 years. I’m skidaddle skadoodle from russia year ago, and that was a best decision in my whole life. Sadly, not every one can leave at this point, cause europe (even when they allowed to get visa) was too expensive for average russian and smth close and more affordable, like China, Kazakhstan, etc., not too much better then russia.
What two Russian laws were broken? Can you elaborate on them a bit?
It will be a bit easier for me, if you can check for yourself via translator. I use firefox TWP extension to translate sites from lang I do not know.
So, there it is, link 1, law that usually used as “appendant” for a case. Any hatespeech against goverment was determent by this law, before specific ones was introduced: link2 for example.
link3 by this law you can also get up to 5 years of prison, that one actually not so often used, but you can check for yourself, there was a list of sued people, cant find it right now. Upd. Found it! Upd1. I didnt notice until now, but site that tracked everyone, who was illegally sentenced to prison, have been liquidated in 2022 apr 5. So, it’s not updated since then and do not have people who was recently got sued.
But that all just child play, cause last couple of days they caught people link4, link5 by this law, also know as treason. Especially funny to hear that about trans dude, who just donated own money to Ukrainians military forces.
Also, if you “mass media” of some sort, or just more popular, then a stone from a road, you got this as a bonus.
List can go on, when I said about “laws that was broken” I meant only first and link4, cause they more often used, if police just need a case.
So, as you can see, Russia is a wonderful country, 10 out of 10, would never live there ever again.
Wow man this is wild.
50 euro can get you free trip to sanatorium for up to 20 years!
Having populations under the thumb of dictators is bad for everyone, even if you live in a relatively free country. Any tools and mechanisms they use to oppress their people are, by extention, bad.
I mean, if they don’t want to look at things they shouldn’t have to.
The problem is those that don’t want to be censored not having a choice.
Reposting my reply to someone else on this topic for visibility:
The Russian scammers are using a ton of proxies and VPNs. Unfortunately, this change will not affect them unless the Russian government completely removes access to the global Internet, and even then, the corruption is so deep that many officials will be selling access to the global Internet to their friends or people with with money.
Russian scammers and social media manipulators are here to stay, likely because they’re largely state run initiatives and they’ll still have access to the global Internet.
What this does is keep the normal Russians insulated from the rest of the world and unable to coordinate outside of their own country, where everything they do is even more tightly controlled by the government.
1- All countries have trolls, in one degree or another.
2- That will also affect the Russian population, who will become even more isolated and powerless.
True online game is no fun without someone shouting cyka blyat. Lol