• assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Problem is we haven’t voted in enough Democrats. We either need 60 senators or 50 senators who will kill the filibuster. Without either, we’re stuck. We can only do things with budget reconciliation.

    Democrats did have 60 Senate votes, for about 2 months because of runoffs and deaths. In that time, they passed Obamacare. And it would’ve had single payer too, if not for Lieberman’s vote being required.

    If we give Democrats 60 senators or 50 who will kill the filibuster, and things still don’t get better, I’ll agree with you completely.

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      1 year ago

      “Vote for the party that isn’t willing to change the broken system” isn’t the hard sell you think it is.

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        1 year ago

        Well yeah, because most understand the broken system takes a lot of time to fix and it can’t be done if you have a deadlocked Senate. People who want to fix the system focus on getting us 50+ senators willing to end the filibuster or 60+ in general. People who just want to bitch and moan say no one is trying to fix the system.

        And if they don’t vote because I’m not inspiring them to, they are quite literally sitting on their asses bitching and moaning.

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          1 year ago

          The democrats have had outright control of the senate for six of the past twenty years, they had caucus control (for lack of a better term) of the senate since January 2021. If they wanted to end the filibuster, they could have.

          For the record, I’ve voted in every presidentialand midterm election - and most primary and local elections too - since 2003, voting almost straight democratic every single time. So I’ve toed the party line for damn near 20 hears.