• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Agreed that the bOtH sIdEs argument is utter bullshit.

    However, Roe was never actually codified into law because it was a reliable rallying cry for Democratic politicians. Put another way: Democrats never seriously pushed to make Roe an actual law because it was politically beneficial to the party in elections.

    Democratic politicians have bleated about protecting abortion rights for decades, but simultaneously completely ignored actually protecting abortion rights with laws.

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      1 year ago

      Democrats never push to do anything that upsets the status quo. They are cowards. And any democrat who does push that agenda, is labeled some sort of extremist socialist nutjob.

      This is why so many of us are outraged.

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        The DNC is almost exclusively just neoliberals at this point.

        To be clear, they’re better than the GOP, but that’s also like saying Mussolini was better than Hitler because Mussolini didn’t execute as many people.

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          Exactly. The DNC only cares about the top 10% (their donor base).The RNC only care about the top 1% (their donor base).

          Everyone else is basically voting for people who hate them and have zero interest in making this country better for the majority. If you don’t make like 200k+ a year, our political system basically thinks you should fuck off and die because you’re a waste of human flesh.

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        Channel your outrage in a way other than voting for a party making things worse. I get you want progress but the options are very very slow progress or regression…don’t vote for regression.

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          there is no productive way to channel it politically. everyone who is in office and running for office is 100% about maintaining the status quo because it benefits the top 10% to the detriment of everyone else in USA society.

          all i can do is fix up my house. lol

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            Gen Z + Millennials = 142 Million

            Gen X + Boomers = 134 Million

            The youth of this country has been conned into thinking they have no power. Boomers don’t want you to vote.

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          I get you want progress but the options are very very slow progress or regression…don’t vote for regression.

          If the best we can do is very slow progress it’s no wonder people don’t think voting is effective

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            Short of revolution voting is all we have. I understand apathy. I was like that in my 20’s…but I can promise that the right can and will make things worse.

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              If anything, I’m more apathetic now than when I was in my 20s. I know the right wing will make things worse, but if the left wing doesn’t make things better then we’re still backsliding. Just slower.

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            the issue is our progress is so slow and our problems are mounting so fast, that it basically seems like we are back sliding… and we are

            hence why homelessness, drug use, etc are all rising. if you aren’t in the top 50% of incomes you can’t afford basic shelter or medical care, and you need to be in the top 20% to afford quality shelter and medical care.

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      There have never been 60 Senate votes to enshrine abortion. The last time Democrats had 60 Senate votes at all was for 2 months early in Obama’s first term – and many of those senators were Manchin style conservative Democrats.

      If there were 50 votes in favor of ending the filibuster, then we might actually have enough. But we don’t have that either.

      If not like voters were unaware of this either. The pro lifers made abortion a constant topic of discussion. If the electorate wanted Roe enshrined, they would’ve voted for more Democrats, and Democrats who won primaries would be pro choice.

      The unfortunate reality is there’s never been enough votes to do so.