• 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
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    It’s weirdly humanizing in a way. Like you just see the sad empty shell of a desperate human being. There’s nothing left outside of the character the actor portrays. He knows there’s little to no chance there exists a scenario where he gets out of this alive.

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      That really sums it up, you can see he knows the gig is up. I really think the plan was to have a spectacular offensive that would cut off Crimea, and then push for NATO membership based on that. Now, he’s realizing that it’s just going to be business as usual where NATO will keep sending scraps without getting directly involved, and his regime is going to be ground down in the end.

      It’s hard to have sympathy for the guy who had the opportunity to end this all back in March last year, but instead chose the course that led to hundreds of thousands of people dying, and millions more having their lives ruined. This clown deserves what’s coming to him.

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        I’m not so sure about that, I’m sure he’ll be able to flee before anyone else and enjoy some nice days in the US or Canada

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            Or they will accept the defeat, take Zelensky as refugee and keep fear mongering against Russia, presenting it as maniac dictatorship being prime aggressor, to strengthen NATO by making more countries join out of fear from Russia.

            Comrade, tell us the parallels you are drawing when you say they gonna need a scapegoat.

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              I expect that accepting defeat will be career ending for a lot of the politicians in the west. Once it becomes impossible to pretend that the war is anything but a debacle, then recriminations are going to start flying. Meanwhile, it’s going to be hard to get any NATO unity when the economic situation continues to unravel. People in Europe are starting to get angry, and when they’re told that there’s gonna have to be even more austerity that could be the breaking point. Notice how parties that want to start dialog with Russia are starting to get popular all of a sudden. Unfortunately, pretty much all of them are right wingers because the left in the west ended up aligning with the imperialists.

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                How many careers did Iraq and Afghanistan end? Not zero, but not a lot, either.

                The cycle is roughly:

                1. This war is a good one, I swear!
                2. See how awful and inept the other guys are, we have to win!
                3. We’ll fight as long as it takes!
                4. Wait, that war is still going? Old news.
                5. Hmm, suddenly there are some reports about our guys not being perfect.
                6. Oh shit it looks like there’s war crimes and graft and boondoggles all over!
                7. Who wanted this war again?
                8. OK they didn’t beat us, we were sabatoged and the locals were corrupt!
                9. Fuck, why do all these people armed with our weapons hate us?
                10. Huh looks like all the war crimes we did were way worse than first revealed.
                11. Ah hell, that war was a whole entire decade ago, we’ve changed!
                12. OK seriously guys, this war is a good one, I swear!
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                I expect that accepting defeat will be career ending for a lot of the politicians in the west.

                A lot of those might only have till the next election anyway, thanks to the inflation they’ve either encouraged or done nothing about. Then again, support for Ukraine is kinda cross-party in the west. It’s hard to predict. Considering the brain worms, one thing we might hope for is that media barons somehow lose a load of money because of the war and shift the narrative hard. This might be too much to hope for, though.

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                  It’s gonna be interesting to watch how this develops, my expectation is that deteriorating material conditions are what’s going to matter in the end. You can feed people as much media as you want, but if they can’t make their ends meet then they’re still gonna be pissed.

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                So they knew the end result but still started the war as a an extra gig for US imperialists to make some quick bucks, and then reset Europe - Russia relationships to pre war.

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                  I get the impression that they are completely detached from reality, and they expected Russia to just collapse within a few weeks of the war starting. Then they just kept hoping that Russia would run out of weapons, or that Russian army would crack, or that they could choke Russia economically somehow. The longer this went on the more they got trapped in their own lies, and now they’ve painted themselves into a corner and have no idea what to do about it.

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          A man sees a doctor because he’s depressed over NATO rejection. “You should see Zelensky,” the doctor says, “he knows how to get into NATO, wait and see!” “But doctor,” the man replies, “I am Zelensky.”

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      I *think *he’ll get to retire on the beach, but I hope he pays for his crimes and gets strung up by his own people he betrayed.

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      Yeah, it almost hurts to look at. Like there’s a part of me that feels… bad for him… And it kind of pisses me off because I know he doesn’t deserve even a shred of my sympathy but there it is.

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    This image is so funny to me because it shows just how much of a puppet Zelensky actually is. He doesn’t really know what he is doing there, he just knows what role he is supposed to play as the actor he is. Even those criminals of NATO have combined centuries of experience on their role as the armed forces of the ruling classes of the West, and then there’s this clown that at least can memorize his script. I feel a little pity for him, his fate will be ending up dead, shot by either a russian soldier or, in my opinion most likely, an ukronazi firing squad.

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        Easy, the Azov Battalion will be rebranded as terrorists to justify NATO occupation of Ukraine to stop the Nazis.

        It really is just Iraq

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          lol sad part is I can totally see that, western media will act like Ukraine duped the west and they totally didn’t realize they were nazis until now

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            And 80%+ of the Collective West’s citizens will buy it, just like they bought Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Ukraine since 2014. It hurts my sensibilities. Some of the most intelligent people I know buy this shit, every fucking time. Clearly deep knowledge in one area doesn’t matter much when it comes to spotting admittedly obvious patterns of propaganda. Sigh…

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              The fact that this just keep happening and seemingly intelligent people don’t see the pattern is the most depressing part for sure. Imagine believing that this is the first just war the west got itself into.

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              Well yes, they lied to us about every war up to now, but THIS time they are telling the truth. Surely they wouldn’t lie 12 times in a row!

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        He will be blamed for the future defeat of the war and loss of control of fascist units with Western weapons, thus justifying intervention in what is left of Ukraine.

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      Don’t just keep all the fun to yourselves while leaving us to Google Lib results or Libbipedia articles for a reference. Try to mention prolewiki.org reference if nothing more is possible. Like this https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein article in this case.

      RantOut, No offence Comrades.

      Prolewiki is awesome. It’s really effective. It really has the potential to go mainstream if we keep working hard on that front too. We will tend to contribute on that if are gonna read frequently on that.

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    He’s so powerless. He showed up in his dumb little military cosplay, with armed guards and everything and people still don’t respect him.

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    Should have worn that naziesque star wars “savor fettuccine” shirt. Jens might have been a bit more interested.