“Instagram owner”
Have they paid the publication for this weird title? It’s Meta. Are they so ashamed they believe calling it a Meta service would mean less users?
Also, are we all going to pretend that Meta isn’t just Facebook, the company that sold all our data to Cambridge Analytica for a quick buck, a company who then used that data to direct target right leaning moderate, pump them full of anxiety and fear, and turn them into Trump devotees? A company that then later didn’t store that data properly and leaked it, allowing thousands of identities to be stolen (including mine)? Meta / Facebook / Instagram are not good actors on the internet and we should be doing more to sully their name
Not saying that Facebook/Meta aren’t terrible but this is a misunderstanding of what happened with Cambridge Analytica.
Facebook didn’t sell anything to Cambridge Analyitica. Their API at the time allowed CA to gather information about you and all of your friends when you took one of their free personality quizzes (during the era when 90% of Facebook was people sharing personality quizzes).
When Facebook found out what CA had done, they fixed their API to prevent it from happening again (not because they cared about user privacy but because CA got a bunch of information from them that they could use to target advertisements on their own without paying FB to run ads) and covered it up so their users wouldn’t know how massively negligent they had been with their data.
So it’s not that Facebook was wantonly selling you data to shady characters so much as they were carelessly leaking your data to any shady characters who happened by.
It may just be me but I feel like that is even worse. Because who knows who got a hold of it now.
Don’t forget that the groups they targeted were as small as 10 people. Facebook is the reason our world is a shit as it is now. Fuck meta. Fuck Facebook. Fuck all of them. I despise them with deeper hatred than 99.99% of the things I have ever known
I would gamble all the tea in China that they sold and continue to sell data to literally anyone with a big enough sack of cash.
Don’t forget that they paid teens to (unbeknownst to them) install a vpn and collect all their data, including message content
They also used a hacky mechanism bc they knew they were breaking the app store rules
Facebook / Meta / the instagram owner is evil as fuck
Well, we aren’t. But if you mean “we” as in “humans”. Then yes, we’ve already forgotten and we don’t care anymore if you remind us. You’re being a paranoid nerd, I don’t get all this techy crap, and I’m sure Mark has learned his lesson or at the very least the government will do something.
I do mean “we” as in “humans.” I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Mark Zuckerberg is going to pivot permanently away from the most profitable set of activities his company ever engaged in.
You’re based on a Germany focused instance, I see. You’re probably more safe from the kinds of things Facebook gets up to than we are on our side of the Atlantic. Over here, Facebook paid $100,000,000 in fines for their behavior. This was 3.3% of the original fine. No regulatory changes were made. It’s unknown how much money Facebook made from data brokering with Cambridge Analytica, but they sold the data of 87 million users. Disturbingly, the number of users Facebook who directly participated in the app used to siphon this data was around 270,000. In other words, Facebook didn’t even need people to interact with Facebook directly to collect information about people, since they were using network connection information to build profiles about people.
THIS is my concern about why they’re so hot to get on the Fediverse right now. They don’t want a huge number of users to sign up for Threads. If numerous users do, that would help them greatly with what they do want, though. They want insight into the greater distributed network of the Fediverse. They want to collect information about Mastodon, Pelorma, Friendica, Calckey, Miskey, BookWyrm, KBin, and Lemmy users who interact with users on Threads.
I’m not sure how much this will affect Meta etc., but it seems like the US gov is looking into data brokers at least: https://www.kanary.com/blog/the-cfpb-is-taking-aim-at-data-brokers-what-you-need-to-know
Oops I forgot my le epic reddit /s
- Mark hasn’t learned his lesson because look at the data they are trying to collect. He’s trying to collect so much data that it has become a meme. Do you realize how much information can be captured by using that new Twitter replacement? It seems like you just plugged your ears, screamed “Lalalalala”, then buried your head in the ground
- “He learned his lesson” was also used by a senator to justify trump and he then led a coup against the US government. The rich don’t learn lessons, they get slaps on the wrist. Nothing has changed from 2016 when this all went down.
- The government will NOT do anything because they are lobbied by ISP providers. There’s no reason for them to make any changes because they are making bank as is. We peasants don’t pose any risk and we certainly aren’t making the elected officials millionaires so why should they listen to us?
I wrote my senior paper at university on data collection and facebooks role in all that. You are so off base with your comment, it’s sad. That “paranoid nerd” you just shit on is entirely right and you sound like a reductionist oaf
I think the comment you replied to needed a /s
Very likely! I wouldn’t have thought so until you mentioned it
Really didn’t think it would be necessary with “I’m sure mark learned his lesson” while he actively continues to destroy society lmao but I see the /s is necessary even on lemmy
Well I guess this is because it is called “Threads, an Instagram app”
No, they’ve already said it’ll be connected to Instagram and allow you to push updates to your Instagram followers
Fewer users.
And yes.
Honestly, it’s scary. For people that are unaware, there’s an amazing resource on privacy-respecting alternatives to popular services and softwares: https://www.privacyguides.org. They are also on Lemmy if you have any question.
Mastodon is already pretty active, and is also part of the fediverse
The unfortunate reality is that unlike us, most of the Twitter users could not care less about making choices, let alone privacy. Twitfaces can’t calm down and talk without going ballistic and you think they’ll willingly look into what federated social media is?
Alot of them are moving though thanks to twitter repeatedly fucking up, I’ve been seeing some artists and such on mastodon recently that were only on twitter before.
People just need to spread the word; there isn’t a marketing campaign or anything for the fediverse after all.
We are the marketing campaign.
“If you can hear this… You ARE the resistance.”
Mastodon is the federated equivalent of twitter the same way lemmy can be considered the federated alternative of reddit. That’s the nice Twitter alternative you are looking for.
This is what I’ve been telling everyone. Don’t go to threads, go to mastodon.
This would be great but most people will not care and sacrifice data for convinence. Wish the government cared as much about us big tech as they did TikTok.
They only attacked TikTok because it’s Chinese, though. Their own data thieves are OK cause they’re buddies.
Of course. That’s my point. All big tech needs to be held to that standard but it doesn’t.
Also calckey is pretty cool too
Is there a way to see recent popular posts? That’s like the only thing missing for me.
No, mastodon is for following people or specific communities… it is specifically NOT for listening to or speaking to the whole world.
Not that you’ve said that, it makes perfect sense for me why mastodon is the way it is.
Ive been using wefwef since the loss of Apollo / reddit, it works pretty well and allows to sort posts or comments accordingly. If you want to see what’s going on right now you can go to your all feed and set it to the most recent posts. Also has a bunch of other sorting options. Like hot and active.
Sounds interesting. I’ll definitely check out if they come up with an app for iOS in the future.
WefWef is an web app, you can already install it on iOS through the browser.
“Instagram owner” just say Meta lol
We all know it’s the Zucc, you don’t gotta lie of omission to kick it.
Facebook makes a product that squeezes every last drop from your privacy? Nooooooo waaaay!
Ahem. They’re called Meta.
But seriously, fuck anything Zuckerberg owns.
I don’t care what they all themselves, they are always going to be Facebook.
They gave up on the metaverse already so I don’t think that name fits anymore.
I would love to use it as a conduit to drag those I love out of the Facebook/Instagram microcosms.
Adam Mosseri appears to be embracing the idea of Open Federation for Threads; https://www.threads.net/t/CuRtcYTNY3J
“ If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”
As long as Meta hasn’t Embraced, Extended and Exterminated the fediverse by that point.
This post is Meta.
On a serious note, can we appreciate Meta’s marketing team for the timing of this announcement. They waited for Twitter to bleed to kick it in the shins.
🥁 ba-dum-tss
Yeah, the timing was on point
installs app
Declines everything
“To use the app You need to allow-”
Uninstalls app
you lost me at “Instagram”
That’s impossible, Instagram already knows your gps coordinates…
Why the first reaction frame? Instagram is owned by Meta, of course they’re going to have incredibly invasive data collection policies.
I expected some data collection but to be honest, have not expected as much (especially location etc., although this can be partly deactivated). But maybe I was too trusting in this case 😅
Guess they ask for the same data on Instagram too.
Great, another Meta privacy brea… I mean service I can stay away from.
No no, you were right the first time
Yeah… Meta the owner of Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp wants to collect data from you? Shocker
Mastodon is a viable option, but then again, this app does some basic automatic account creation from existing FB data and follow people from it. This alone will impress some non-tech journalist and praise it. We have become too lazy to get out of the burning house and save our life.
I wonder if any of that break some GPDR or California Data laws.
And people will join on there and it will have more success than better alternatives probably, at least for now. It’s mindblowing how little people care/understand.
And it’s not even like Meta offers any good service, FB has been crap forever.
I think most of the world has bought into the marketing lies of big tech, where they claim to be secure and private. Caring for their users. I was one of those people, until one day I asked a simple question, “what are these companies doing to actually protect me?” Nothing. rather I have made myself more vulnerable by being on a platform that uses my information at scale. They are doing everything to protect themselves from law suits and to keep racking in money over decades old dream of marketing based on large amount of personal data gathering. Ad money is drying up this year, high interest rate and all that. I wonder what impact that will have on these platforms.
This is so egregiously excessive that Threads can’t launch in the EU (https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.html)
Is anyone really supprised?
Not the fact they want to collect our data but it’s the kind of data that’s concerning.
“Sensitive info”. Does Zucky want to collect data about the size of our peepees?
“Other data”. Aka “literally whatever the fuck we want”
They want to collect all sizes not just peepees!
But tbh they are doing this on twitter… There is not really any big difference, the only difference being is that people complain about this now.I never said twitter was better. But I’m frustrated that people who hate twitter right now are probably more likely to move to this Meta crap instead of good alternatives like Mastodon
Well it kinda makes sense that people will move to the bigger platform’s… But I hope the open source ones gets more traction. I’m noticing that I use less reddit now… And when Relay stops working I might migrate fully.
