- cross-posted to:
- vessal
- cross-posted to:
- vessal
Hi all,
I’m Connor, founder of Vessal, and wanted to (1) share with the group and (2) collect any feedback or suggestions you all may have.
Briefly, Vessal aims to make transportation private and secure. In some ways, it can be equated to a “VPN for transportation.”
We are still relatively in our infancy, and therefore may be a little clunky sometimes as far as usability. Of course, we are always striving to improve!
Thanks for your time and taking a look, and again, we appreciate any feedback or suggestions you may have.
Connor
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You’re going to become fast friends with the postal inspector. They will most likely require you to maintain a list of every sender and receiver.
Ignoring that, let’s compare this to the standard I don’t want you to know where I live strategy: a post office box. Let’s say a streamer or some famous YouTuber who doesn’t want people to actually have their home address.
Anybody can send to a post office box, they just need the address. It’s not entirely clear, but your service would require both the sender and receiver to have an account and relationship with you.
The privacy conscious person cannot take packages directly home from the post office, they need to be scanned for trackers, air tags etc, or opened in a neutral location. Your service would send directly to a destination address, so a single air tag would destroy all privacy, unless the destination was a PO box, but at which point what is the customer benefiting from?
I think it’s an interesting service, but I don’t see it working. The closest I would see it to is virtual post mail, or other virtual mailbox services. They scan mail when it comes in, and then email or reship that to another destination up to you. That’s kind of the privacy arbitrage layer. Otherwise there’s the post office boxes for people who want to receive without giving away their location.
If two people want to have a transaction without any third party knowing, shipping it via the post is always difficult. Labels are scanned at every office. And I think your service will quickly have tracking requirements put onto it, quite frankly your early adopters will almost certainly only be sending illegal material.
What is your target audience or use case? Because the obvious choice would be illegal items, which are excluded by your TOS. And while privacy enthusiasts are willing to spend extra, your asking price is too steep for casual use.
I noticed the pricing page is entirely dollar nominated, with the only payment option listed “cash on delivery”, listing a bunch of typical payment options. Monero is only mentioned as a feature on the usage and FAQ tab, and both are easy to miss. Initially I wondered why you were posting here if you only accept paypal and such.
Thank you for the feedback! And that makes sense, I have received multiple comments on it being hard to understand what payment methods are accepted.
Target audience is privacy enthusiasts, and the pricing was/is a concern of ours. We ultimately want to decrease it as low as possible while in turn achieving more volume.
I really appreciate your time and sharing your thoughts, would you mind if I message you directly on some items?
I prefer public discussion. If you must reach me privately, please send me a simplex invite, the lemmy chat is not encrypted.
Yo wtf? You do realize that when you go live someone will send drugs through your service?
At that point the alphabet boys will jump on you as their next favorite low-hanging fruit?
I hope you know how be and stay anonymous…Much appreciated for the feedback; anything illegal is against our terms of service:
Prohibited Items: Do not transport illegal, hazardous, or restricted items.
We are very much the same in regards to a VPN—routing, relaying, delivering, etc. packets from an origin to a destination.
