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Originally posted to r/Marriage

My MIL wants my toddler to call her Mama, and my husband doesn’t have my back


Original Post: November 17, 2023

I hate to come to Reddit with a personal martial issue but I could use some reassurance that I’m not being wildly unreasonable here.

My husband and I have a 17 month old son, who is our first child and the first grandchild on both sides of the family. My mother in law spent a lot of time thinking of her grandmother name and eventually decided on “Mama”

This makes me uncomfortable as I am my son’s mama, it feels like it’s being taken from me and I don’t want to share the title of mama with a grandparent.

I’ve expressed to my husband several times since his mom chose this name that I’m uncomfortable with it, and his response has been unequivocally that I am being unreasonable and I have to get over it.

To further complicate the issue, our son has a pretty significant speech delay (he’s not speaking at all), and his speech therapist mentioned this week that he needs consistency and calling his grandmother mama will be detrimental to his language development. It also further increases the importance of the word mama to me— when he finally says it to me, it will be such an incredible moment that signifies all the long & hard work I’ve put into helping him grow and develop his speech.

Even after bringing the speech concern up to my husband, he still thinks I’m unreasonable, and I’m on my own if I want to cause an issue with his mother. At this point, this is the most upsetting part, that I’ve expressed my feelings repeatedly and he completely dismisses them and doesn’t have my back.

I want to speak to my MIL about it when I see her in person next, but I’m terrified of potentially blowing up our relationship and being left all on my own as the crazy daughter in law without my husband to back me up.

Am I being crazy here? (For reference, his family is not Hispanic or from the Southern US (or anywhere similar) where a grandparent Mama is more common/accepted. He called one of his grandparents Mama— it must have not bothered my MIL, which is great for her, but obviously we are different people and I have my own feelings on the matter. I also am already in therapy for my people-pleasing tendencies and we have couples therapy sessions as well)

Edit: Thanks for the replies and giving me the courage to have this convo with my MIL. Confrontation is so hard for me but I’m going to do my best.

My relationship with my MIL is otherwise great and I love her a lot. She’s not the overbearing type at all so this is totally out of left field. Yes, she wants it pronounced like regular mama (not mawmaw or memaw). I have overheard her babbling mamamama to my son and explicitly saying “I want him to say my name first.” She’s bought mama apparel and mama jewelry and other such things that I have thought are clearly meant for new mothers. It’s overall wildly inappropriate imo and I’m so confused where this is coming from, but I will set the boundary that this isn’t okay.

The larger issue is that this is just another instance in a marriage where I don’t feel my feelings are respected. It’s exactly what I’m in therapy for, learning to build my confidence and self-esteem and how to stand up for myself. (My therapist agrees with me that this is a reasonable boundary btw, but I entirely shut down the idea of confronting MIL at the time because I was too scared. I’ve made a lot of progress since then though and feel more ready now.)

Getting confirmation here that I’m not crazy gives me the last push of confidence I needed, but I’m really sad that my husband doesn’t see it this way at all. I want a life partner who is my cheerleader and supporter, who is proud of me for making these changes & setting boundaries for the first time in my life, and it hurts that I don’t have that.

Typing this all out has helped clarify why I feel the way I do, and I’ll be talking some more with my husband before the convo with my MIL. I may show him the comments here if I have to. Thank you for confirming I’m not crazy!

Comments

Automatic_Gazelle_74: First you’re not being crazy. The professional speech therapist advise against it. Have you told your mother-in-law what is recommended? Granny is not mama you are. She is being unreasonable. You mention you are in therapy for people pleasing tendencies. Time to put some of what you have learned to work. Time to tell the marriage counselor your husband has no backbone with his mother.

tnannie: MILs don’t get to CHOOSE mama as their name against the mothers wishes. And weak husbands should not be allowing it. If he doesn’t get his act together and rein her in, she will continue to overstep and he will continue to let her.

You’re not overreacting. This is the hill I would die on. Stand up for yourself firmly. “This is unacceptable. I will not allow it. You fix it or I will. But if I have to do it, you won’t like how I do it.”

The problem with people pleasing is everyone gets to be happy except you. No one cares if you light yourself on fire to keep them warm.

If your therapist doesn’t back you up, find a new one.

 

Update: July 1, 2024 (6.5 months later)

I posted last year about my MIL choosing “Mama” as her grandmother name, how wildly inappropriate I find it, and how my husband thinks I’m overreacting and doesn’t have my back.

He eventually told her that she needed to choose a new name as I am mama in my son’s speech therapy sessions… and their solution is that her name is now “Mama Jo” (mama [first name])

I have overheard her say “I want him to say my name first,” “I don’t want to give up mama because he’s going to say that before any other name,” etc. multiple times.

I feel like I’m living in crazy town and am going insane. This new name is literally not any different whatsoever, especially considering the justification of why she wants to be “Mama” so badly. When my toddler finally does say mama (he’s 2 but speech delayed and can’t make the m sound yet) it’s going to be for me— his mother— and me exclusively!

I’ve given up on trying to convince my husband to get on my side. I’m going to speak to my MIL directly next time I see her in person, but it’s going to be a big blowup and I’m really upset my husband still cannot see why my feelings are hurt by this— I think more than anything else this has become a massive marriage issue between us. He has a habit of often invalidating my feelings and telling me I’m overreacting (and to be fair I am a very sensitive person) but this situation has proven to me that even if I’m being the most reasonable person in the world, he still will consider it “overreacting.”

I’ll finally stand up to my MIL myself, but I just wish my husband had my back.

Relevant Comments

RO489: That’s crazy. Makes me think you both might be able to unpack how his mom’s narcissism impacts how he reacts to you.

Does his mom diminish his feelings?

OOP: Now that you mention it, I’m immediately reminded of the period of time when we lived with my in laws, and the way my MIL spoke to his sister during arguments was nearly verbatim the same way he diminishes my feelings. It was a huge lightbulb moment for me at the time when I realized he was just copying what was modeled to him, and I’ve totally forgotten about it until now.

I can’t think of a single time he’s ever had an issue personally with his mom in the 15 years we’ve been together but he also never talks about his feelings and keeps everything inside so that’s another problem in and of itself.

RO489: So he’s the golden child and that’s probably a different dynamic to work through

OOP: You may be onto something here, his brother has also (relatively recently, as an adult) had arguments with his mother so bad that he was NC with my in laws for a bit.

 

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