“While Trump did say that there were ‘very fine people on both sides,’ he also specifically noted that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists and said they should be ‘…
    • jimbolauski
      33·
      5 months ago

      No one is disputing Trump said “very fine people on both sides”, which is what your link confirms. The false narrative was that he was talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists which he doesn’t mention at all. Your clip doesn’t prove Trump was talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists, unless you can show that everyone who was there protesting the removal was a neo-Nazis or white supremacists.

      • Doom@ttrpg.network
        7·
        5 months ago

        Lmfaoooo the gymnastics

        They were there, he referred to people there as very fine people and did not specify of the people there the nazis weren’t very fine people

        Get the absolute flippin heck out of here with your insane mental olympic level gymnastics

        • jimbolauski
          2·
          5 months ago

          They were there, he referred to people there as very fine people

          Were there other people there besides white supremists and meo-nazis opposing the tear down of the statue?

            • jimbolauski
              2·
              5 months ago

              So some of the people there protesting the teardown were fine people?

              • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
                2·
                5 months ago

                No. No reasonable person would define “very fine people” as those who venerate someone who fought a war for the purpose of maintaining the institution of slavery.

                I have not heard any argument that convinces me that such statues and monuments ought to be kept.

                • jimbolauski
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  I’m not debating whether taking down the statue was right or not. My point of contention is that when Trump said very fine people there is no indication he was calling nazis and white supremists very fine people.

          • Doom@ttrpg.network
            21·
            5 months ago

            If a nazi is sitting at a table with ten other people. You got a table of 11 nazis

            • jimbolauski
              21·
              5 months ago

              I don’t consider everyone that attended BLM protests rioters, do you?

      • NeuromancerM
        33·
        5 months ago

        People protested for many reasons. Lee was a decent general. Honestly he’s over hyped but he was better than grant. Per did some foolish things but if you’ve read about Lee it made sense. Lee wasn’t about the confederacy. He was about Virginia. As such he put to much emphasis on Virginia. That is just one example of why he was an amazing general.

  • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
    4·
    5 months ago

    Snopes’ ruling removes key ammunition from Biden’s arsenal just days before…

    Yeah, looks bad for Biden. If he can’t bring that up, then what else can he possibly criticize Trump for?