• Followupquestion
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      11 months ago

      I’d argue he’s setting the stage for einsatzgruppen, like the infamous Reserve Police Battalion 101.

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    11 months ago

    What about if instead of giving police a free reign to commit brutality, he said something like “we’re going to vastly increase the funding that goes towards quality training; we’re going to reduce reliance on old military weapons and tactics; there will be less lawsuits because our police will be given a quality education.”

    How about wanting the police to be the best at their jobs, rather than the most brutal?

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      11 months ago

      You mean, just like European police forces? Some of which don’t even carry guns on the job?

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        11 months ago

        I’m not sure which countries don’t - the UK doesn’t. Germany does.

        But German police seem to be eminently better trained than the US cops.

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          11 months ago

          But German police seem to be eminently better trained than the US cops.

          Well, it is not really difficult to have police that is better trained than in the US. Which is a big part of the problem.

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      11 months ago

      “are you suggesting our brave police are dumb?”

      Then quickly pivot to “classic coastal academic elite, assuming everyone needs more education to work an honest job they already hold.”

      When they’re about to blow hit em with "education? More like indoctrination "

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    11 months ago

    How are we in a timeline where the only alternative to a neolib shit stain like Joe Biden is a literal fascist?

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      11 months ago

      I’m sure a lot of potential cases would actually be filed in state courts where he would not have much power over, at least directly.

      As far as civil vs. criminal, ianal, but

      Under traditional English common laws, a doctrine called sovereign immunity prevented citizens from suing the king. Sovereign immunity was incorporated into American law as well, imposing limits on lawsuits against government agencies or employees. source: Forbes.com

      So basically, the government has to grant you permission to sue it. If a president decrees that the government is immune in a civil case, there is little legal recourse. (Reminder: ianal, I want everyone to know ianal.)

      But the big picture: regardless of whether efforts to interfere could be successful, this announcement will increase police brutality.